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1871

Name: Mary Elizth Pevens
[Mary Elizth Owens]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool Lancashire England
Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 89
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 3823
Folio: 107
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Elias Allen Croft 59
Rosina Croft 55
John Croft 18
Mary Elizth Pevens 10


OWENS, MARY ELIZABETH (MMN) CROFT
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 310

1901

Name: Mary J Rumble
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Mary E Rumble
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Polycarp
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3474
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 116a
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary E Rumble 40
William Rumble 17
Mary J Rumble 14
Thomas Rumble 10
Henry Rumble 5

RUMBLE, HENRY (MMN) OWENS
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 465

1891

Name: William Rumble
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1843
Spouse: Mary E Rumble
Child: Sarah E Rumble
William Rumble
Mary J Rumble
Thomas Rumble
Birth Place: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, Institution or Vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2900
Folio: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Rumble 48
Mary E Rumble 30
Sarah E Rumble 9
William Rumble 7
Mary J Rumble 4
Thomas Rumble 2/12


RUMBLE, THOMAS (MMN) OWENS
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 4


Name: Thomas Rumble
Age: 0
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1891
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1891
Baptism Place: Scotland Road, St Matthews Church, Lancashire, England
Father: William Rumble........Labourer
Mother: Elizabeth Rumble
Address: 19, Mould Street

Name: William Rumble
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Rumble
Mother's name: Sophia Rumble
Gender: Male
Where born: East Ilsley, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: East Ilsley
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wantage
Sub-registration district: Wantage
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 1689
Folio: 433
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Rumble 44
Sophia Rumble 39
Harriet Rumble 16
Elizabeth Rumble 15
Caroline Rumble 14
Eliza Rumble 13
William Rumble 11
Mary A Rumble 10
Ruth Rumble 7
Thomas Rumble 6
Hannah Rumble 5
Sarah Rumble 3
Lucy Rumble 1

Name: Sarah Elizabeth Hibbett
[Sarah Elizabeth Hibbert]
[Sarah Elizabeth Owens]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 38
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1919
Marriage Place: Liverpool, All Saints, Lancashire, England
Father: William Owens
Spouse: James Jenkins

Name: Caroline Rumble
Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1898
Baptism Place: Everton, St Polycarp, Lancashire, England
Father: William Rumble..............Labourer
Mother: Mary Elizabeth Rumble
Address; 79, Gordon Street

RUMBLE, CAROLINE (MMN) OWENS
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 332

Deaths Sep 1899 (>99%)
Rumble Caroline 1 W. Derby 8b 410

Name: William Rumble
Age in 1911: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Father-in-law********************************
Gender: Male
Birth Place: East Ilsley Bark
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 182 Elias St Liverpool
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Old Age Pensioner
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Piece: 22488
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hibbert 30
Sarah Hibbert 29
Charles Hibbert 10
Albert Hibbert 6
Sarah Hibbert 4
Maggie Hibbert 2
William Rumble 71



Name: William Rumble
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hsley, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3457
Folio: 79
Page Number: 32
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shanks 69
William Rumble 61

WHEN was the marriage of Hibbert and Owen(s)?

To find the MMN, look for the woman’s birth on the GRO site, then look on freebmd for a potential marriage for the parents

Look for her with parents on censuses - so you can confrim your findings

Not sure what else you’re asking. Your reference to Sarah Ann Holland and Sarah Ann Owen simply doesn’t make sense, I’m afraid

Plus i have there name as owen and not owens
Regards

The dates on page 2 for there ages dont add up.
Charles thomas hibbert.born lpool 1882 married sarah eliz owen
His father was charles thomas hibbert born 1861 great boughton chester.he married
Sarah ann holland.so was sarah ann owen her father and mother.i have a link to the rumble family but not sure
Regards

I have on page 2 thomas charles hibbert married sarah elizabeth owens married in lpool i have her father as william robert owens was her mother a rumble
Regards

Ok sorry i missed that one,got it now,
Many thanks :-)

I've already told you that.......

And it's easy to find

Look at freebmd - or read my posts

Is it possible for one last favour george james smith born 1878 married margaret beatrice smith born 1880 what was her maiden name
Regards

Thank you so much :-)

1911
37 Desmond St Everton L'pool, Everton, Lancashire, England
George J Smith Head Married Male 33 1878 Labourer Lpool Corporation Everton Lancs
Margaret Smith Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Everton Lancs
Lillian Smith Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Everton Lancs
George Smith Son - Male 8 1903 - Everton Lancs
Margaret Smith Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Everton Lancs
Annie Smith Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Everton Lancs
Robert Smith Son - Male 2 1909 - Everton Lancs

MMN is Blacoe

Freebmd is such an easy site to use - try it!

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

also the following

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Look for her birth on the FREE to all GRO index, which gives you the MMN. Then look for parents’ marriage

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

OR....get a copy of her marriage cert for confirmation of her father’s details - assuming she knew him

The other - EASY - option is to find Edna’s birth on freebmd

No need to ‘think’ where Annie married Hibbert -the record will be on freebmd

Looking for the parents of annie smith born liverpool d.o.b.27 feb 1906 she married george hibbert born 1911,think they married liverpool,annies sisters were edna,cissy henrieta,may,brother william known as billy,i think edna was born.24 11 1918.
Thanks