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Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1873

SIM John MARSH Pamelia St George, Barrow in Furness Cumbria Certificate
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Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
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MARSH Pamelia Ulverston 8e 1085
Sims John Ulverston 8e 1085

(if above)

Chris :)

Nicely found Chris!

Ancestry transcription gone mad!! Original says Sim

Name John Simon
Age 32
Estimated Birth Year abt 1849
Relationship to Head Head
Spouse Panicla Simon
Gender Male
Where born Scotland
Civil parish Upholland
County/Island Lancashire
Street Address Ormskirk Rd
Marital Status Married
Occupation Police Constable
Registration district Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel 3
Piece 3782 Folio 36 Page number 12
Name Age
John Simon 32
Panicla Simon 24
George Simon 6
Mary E. Simon 4
Agnes Simon 2

Same on FMP:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ormskirk Road, Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England

John Simon Head Married Male 32 1849 Police Constable Scotland
Panicla Simon Wife Married Female 24 1857 - Staffordshire, England
George Simon Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Barrow, Lancashire, England
Mary E Simon Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Lancashire, England
Agnes Simon Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Lancashire, England

I can't seem to find that one anywhere? Found a Pamela Marsh marriage in 1877 Dec Q in Dudley,6c 191,but that doesn't appear to be her?

Name is registered as PAMELIA on 1873 marriage index

Hahahahaha,no wonder I couldn't find it !!! CHEERS guys :)

Well done Chris - no wonder I couldn't find it !!

There is also this on Mary Ellen:

Baptism: 1 Oct 1876 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Mary Ellen Sim - [Child] of John Sim & Pamela
Born: 9 Sep 1876
Abode: UpHolland
Occupation: Police officer

Dea x

And this one:

Baptism: 27 Apr 1889 Haughton Green Wesleyan Methodist, Haughton, Lancashire, England
May Elsie Sim - Daughter of John Sim & Pamela
Born: 13 May 1888
Abode: Haughton
Baptised by: William Barnes
Register: Baptisms 1871 - 1932, Page 45, Entry 164
Source: Original Register

Dea x

BRILLIANT !!! Proving quite elusive this guy/ Looking for his birth in 1849 now.Place,DOB,so I can find his parents-without having to go down to Library to look on microfiches for his marriage in 1873.Having a look on 1871 census now,prior to him marrying Pamela,Parmelia,Panicla lol.Looked under Sim,Sime,Simm & Simon-can't find an obvious one?

A tree on Ancestry suggests he is this one:


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Inverurie, Garioch, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Geo Sim Head Married Male 33 1818 Sawier Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Agnes Sim Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John Sim Son - Male 2 1849 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Unknown Sim Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Wm Shand Lodger - Male 47 1804 Sawier Banffshire, Scotland




1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Inverurie, Inverury, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Sim Head Widower Male 39 1822 Sawyer Tarves, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John Sim Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Agnes Sim Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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James Sim Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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William Sim Son - Male 2 1859 - Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jane Wallace Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Domestic Servant New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

He later has children - George and Agnes ?


Dea x

BRILLIANT !!! Thank you so much.Just got to try & find him on the 1871 now :)

I don't see the marriage certificate on-line for John, but a tree on Ancestry that states they have the certificate has the following information:

1873 Marriage solemnised at the Parish Church in the Parish of St George, Barrow in the County of Lancaster. December 25 1873. John Sims [age] 23, bachelor, Blacksmith, [of] 41 Thwaite Street [Father] George Sim, Wood Merchant [and] Pamela Marsh [age] 19, Spinster, [of] 41 Thwaite Street [Father] William Marsh, Boilermaker [were] Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me Arthur E O'Brien. This marriage was solemnised between us John Sim [and] Pamela Marsh in the presence of us John Richmond his X mark [and] Helen Caroline Marsh her X mark.

Think this could be him in 1871:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Old R P Church, Kilmalcolm, Renfrewshire, Scotland

James Welsh Boarder Unmarried Male 50 1821 Mason Ireland
Donald Black Lodger Unmarried Male 56 1815 Labourer Argyllshire,
John Sim Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1850 Blacksmith Inverurie, Aberdeenshire,

(wondered if this was George below)

Chris :)

25 September 1891 - Aberdeen Free Press - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire

The Funeral of George Sim (Late Wood Merchant, Inverurie) will take place on Saturday, 26th inst., at 10.45 A.M., from 48, Salisbury Terrace, Aberdeen, to the Churchyard of Inverurie. Friends are respectfully invited to meet at Bridge of Don, Port-Elphinstone, at Two o'clock P.M.


30 September 1891 - Aberdeen Press and Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire

Death
At 48, Salisbury Terrace, Aberdeen, on 23rd inst., George Sim (late wood merchant, Inverurie), aged 77. Friends omitted please accept this intimation.


https://www.deceasedonline.com/

(if any named Agnes relate on Burials above, Aberdeen)


https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

(for Scottish Records)

CHEERS everybody,thank you for all your help.Now looking for Thomas Henry Dunstan,his wife Eliza Jane (nee Jackson) & Thomas Henry Junior on 1901 census.Can't seem to find them? Can't find Thomas Henry Senior on 1861,1881 or 1891 either? Got him on 1871 with wife Jane,in Eston,Guisborough
Any help much appreciated.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
21, Casson Street, Ulverston, Lancashire, England

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Thomas H Dunston Head Married Male 32 1869 Assurance Agent Yorkshire, England
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Eliza J Dunston Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Cornwall, England
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Thomas H Dunston Son Single Male 8 1893 - Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England
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Arthur Wilson Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Watchmaker Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Steele Boarder Single Female 22 1879 Dressmaker Ulverston, Lancashire, England

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
52 Byron St Barrow in Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

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Thomas Henry Dunstan Head Married Male Engine Driver Stationery 42 1869 Yorkshire Eston
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Eliza Jane Dunstan Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Cornwall Reduth
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Thomas Henry Dunstan Son Single Male Plasterer 18 1893 Lancashire Dalton in Furness

married 19 years 2 children born 1 died 1 living

Is this the 1871 you found?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hewley Street Taylors Row, Eston, Guisborough, Yorkshire, England

Thomas Dunstan Head - Male 38 1833 - Cornwall, England
Jane Dunstan Wife - Female 38 1833 - Cornwall, England
John Dunstan Son - Male 13 1858 - Cornwall, England
Eliza J Dunstan Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Cornwall, England
Thomas Dunstan Son - Male 2 1869 - Yorkshire, England
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This appears to be the same family in 1881 (But head is John):

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
57, Dale Street, Marske, Guisbrough, Yorkshire, England

John Dunstan Head Married Male 48 1833 Iron Miner Gwennap, Cornwall,
Jane Dunstan Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Cornwall, England
Thomas H Dunstan Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Eston, Yorkshire,
Johanna M Dunstan Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Eston, Yorkshire,
John Collins Boarder Head Single Male 24 1857 Iron Miner St Stephens, Cornwall,
Eliza J Collins Boarder Single Female 21 1860 - Gwennap, Cornwall, England
Eliza J Collins Boarder Single Female 3 1878 - Brotton, Yorkshire, England
Stephen Collins Boarder Single Male 1 1880 - Marske, Yorkshire, England
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Boarder, Eliza, was Eliza from the 1871:

Marriage
First name(s) Eliza Jane
Last name Dunstan
Age 18
Birth year 1859
Marriage date 04 Oct 1877
Marriage place Brotton
Residence Skiningrove
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Dunstan
Spouse's first name(s) John
Spouse's last name Collins
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Skiningrove
Spouse's father's first name(s) Stephen
Spouse's father's last name Collins
County Yorkshire (North Riding)

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Same family 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cleator Street, Dalton in Furness, Ulverston, Lancashire, England

Thomas Dunston Head Married Male 62 1829 Iron Miner Gwennap, Cornwall,
Jane Dunston Wife Married Female 60 1831 - Wendron, Cornwall,
Thomas H Dunston Son Single Male 22 1869 Iron Miner Eston, Yorkshire,
Johannah M Dunston Daughter Single Female 19 1872 - Eston, Yorkshire,
Stephen Collins Grandson Single Male 11 1880 Scholar Yorkshire,
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Birth index for Joanna:

DUNSTAN, JOANNA MARIA Mother's maiden name: CROUGAY
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in GUISBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 454

For Eliza:

DUNSTAN, ELIZA JANE Mmn: CROWGY
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 249

For Thomas:

DUNSTON, THOMAS HENRY Mmn: CRONGER
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 469
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Their parent's marriage:

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name DUNSTAN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1853
Spouse: JANE CROWGEY
District REDRUTH
County Cornwall
Volume 5C Page 458

(possible below for child that died)

Chris :)

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1895

DUNSTAN Mary Jane JACKSON Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services


Cumbria Death indexes for the years: 1895

DUNSTAN Mary J Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services D/35

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/index.php


(no idea!, but if below for her, looking on google, says, 'Treleigh is a hamlet north of Redruth in Cornwall')

Baptism
County Cornwall
Place Treleigh
Church name St Stephen
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 82
Baptism date 07 Apr 1864
Birth date
Person forename Elisa Jane
Person abode Union
Father forename Thomas
Father surname JACKSON
Father occupation Miner
Mother forename Elizabeth

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(using below, free link, could be family)

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Chris :)

1861
Piece: RG9/1578 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 21
Civil Parish: Gwennap Ecclesiastical Parish: Lannarth
Folio: 28 Page: 26 Schedule: 138
Address: Lanner Moor

DUNSTON Thomas Head M M 32 Miner Cornwall - Gwennap
DUNSTON Jane Wife M F 30 Cornwall - Gwennap
DUNSTON John Son - M 6 Cornwall - Gwennap
DUNSTON Eliza Dau - F 2 Cornwall - Gwennap
CROWGRY Ann Visitr - F 67 Cornwall - Gwennap