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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Oct 2016 08:56

(AQ, have you got time to look at another School one for Miriam, 1913?)

(really must move here, been looking Lincs. newspapers)

Chris :)

Edits (lol, well done on 1913!)

(another 1902, has A. Lammin. Gives 12/4/02 Birth on that)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 31 Oct 2016 08:47

I think it says Lamming

In 1913 her Parent/ Guardian on the school admissions was listed as Mrs Mortlock, 5 Cobden Street.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2016 08:44

Thanks for that AustinQ. I thought it said MGR too (rather than the OCR on the transcript).

Wonder who Mrs. Hamming was.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Oct 2016 08:40

(just to add Alfred E Howson had just lost his wife, Florence M (Maiden Name Eggitt)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(not seeing a lot on above, can be useful Lincs.)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 31 Oct 2016 08:00

The Miriam Cant on the 1939 found by Rootgather is likely correct. Her birth date is given as 2 Aug 1902 (it did state 1901, but that was changed- the change has an area code TKA which is Lincolnshire, Lindsey, Grimsby).

On the original 1939 above Miriam's name it has MGR (I think). There is no area code for MGR so unsure of its meaning. Below Miriam there are 3 closed records.

The birth date matches school record:

National School Admission Registers & Log-books
First name(s) Miriam
Last name Castles
Birth year 1902
Birth date 02 Aug 1902
Event year 1911
School name South Parade Jun Girls School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Mrs Hamming
Book type Admissions

Address: 23 Annesley St.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2016 07:55

Thanks for looking at those deaths Sylvia. Any chance you could search on Ancestry for a death for Miriam using that birthdate but no surname please? There are a couple in Lincolnshire but I no longer subscribe to Ancestry so I am unable to see the DOB for them. I was just wondering if her death was registered in a different surname. Thank you.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Oct 2016 07:22

(below looked to relate also)

Chris :)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Cleethorpes
Church name Municipal Cemetery
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 24 Oct 1899
Person age 17 m
Burial person forename George Trueman
Burial person surname CANT
Burial person abode 27 Guildford St N/C
Relationship Son of
Male relative forename William Bell
Female relative forename Margaret Ann
Relative surname CANT
Register note Died 16 Oct 1899

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2016 02:58

Yes ....... this is the version of the baptism from FindMypast


Lincolnshire Baptisms

First name(s) Edward Hallport
Last name Cant
Sex Male
Birth year 1900
Birth date 23 Oct 1900
Baptism year 1900
Baptism date 23 Nov 1900
Church St John
Place New Clee St John
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William Bell
Mother's first name(s) Margaret Ann
Page 52
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2016 00:35

I can't see the image of this baptism, but I bet it should read Hallport!!


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Edward Gallport Cant
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1900
Baptism Place: St. John the Evangelist, Clee, Lincoln, England
Father: William Bell Cant
Mother: Margaret Ann Cant
FHL Film Number: 1541937
Reference ID: Page 52 No. 414


and this is probably the marriage of Edward's parents ........

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)

Cant William Bell Hartlepool 10a 208
Oram Margaret Ann Hartlepool 10a 208

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2016 00:33

Point of interest ...............


Note that Edward's birth was registered as Edward Hallport Cant

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Cant Edward Hallport Grimsby 7a 606

This spelling is used in the Public Family Trees on ancestry, including on the Cant Family Tree.

and on the censuses

1901 Census

Name: Edward H Cant
Age: 5/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Cant
Mother: Margaret A Cant
Birth Place: Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Cleethorpes
Search Photos: Search for 'Cleethorpes' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Clee Holy Trinity
Town: Cleethorpes
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Grimsby
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 56

Piece: 3095
Folio: 114
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 39

William Cant 34
Margaret A Cant 31
Hannah M E Cant 5
Edward H Cant 5/12
Sarah A Cran 17


1911 Census

Margaret Ann Cant 40
William Henry Cant 7
Hannah Mary E Cant 15
Edward Halfost Cant 10


It is Halport on the image

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2016 00:17

BTW ....................

just as a clarification ..........

Allport E Cant is shown as Married on the 1939 Register

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2016 00:03

That 1939 Register entry could be for this Miriam Castles


Miriam Castles 1902 Jul-Aug-Sep Grimsby Lincolnshire

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Oct 2016 23:57

3 deaths on ancestry for Miriam Cant, with vrying other forenames.

None with the birth date 1902 ...... see below

Miriam Elizabeth Cant 1881 Dec 1970 Wycombe Buckinghamshire

Miriam Jane C Cant 1890 Dec 1977 Sudbury Suffolk

Miriam Cant abt 1917 Dec 1950 Samford Suffolk

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Oct 2016 22:02

On the 1939 register for Miriam a note written in red says "see page 22" but I have no idea how to find that page.

Not sure why we can't (pun not intended) find another marriage or a death for Miriam.

Perhaps someone with Ancestry could checkout deaths for a Miiam with the DOB on the 1939 register.

Bruce

Bruce Report 30 Oct 2016 21:52

Shirley,
I have not yet applied for a wedding certificate, so that I do not know his status when he married Clarice.

Thanks to everyone else who have added information.
on Freebmd it shows two births in Glanford Borough and Scunthorpe in 1937 and 1939 under the name of Cant with mother's maiden name of Castles. Which would tie in with the information from rootgatherer

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Oct 2016 21:43

What was Edwards marital status when he married Clarice

malyon

malyon Report 30 Oct 2016 21:39

Deaths Mar 1923   (>99%)

CANT
 George P
 0
 Grimsby
 7a
770

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Oct 2016 21:38

Already posted that info Malyon :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Oct 2016 21:36

I think that this may be Miriam in 1939

Household (3 People)
11 Winn Street , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)
Miriam ?Oor (Cart)
DOB 02 Aug 1902
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 93
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Alfred E Howson
DOB 17 Apr 1895
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Stripper Attendant ?
MARITAL STATUS -
SCHEDULE 93
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Raymond Howson
DOB 16 Jun 1937
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Under School Age
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 93
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 6

Three closed records

malyon

malyon Report 30 Oct 2016 21:34

Marriages Dec 1922   (>99%)

Cant
 Edward A
 Castles
 Grimsby
 7a
1480
  
Castles
 Miriam M
 Cant
 Grimsby
 7a
1480
  

  
children
Births Mar 1923   (>99%)

Cant
 George P
 Castles
 Grimsby
 7a
1147
  

Births Jun 1929   (>99%)

Cant
 Edwin A
 Castles
 Grimsby
 7a
1012
  

Births Jun 1931   (>99%)

Cant
 Margery M
 Castles
 Grimsby
 7a
964