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Henry Frederick Stock

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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2016 17:54

I think it's very likely Kucinta

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 30 Oct 2016 17:24

So do you think the daughter married in 1972?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2016 17:10

It does look promising Kucinta- although I can't see anything concrete to tie it in either.

There is a tree on Ancestry (User name tsgadam) that has Henry Frederick Stock b1909 Nailsea, Somerset with a partner (name is private), but likely Jean Dunn, and a daughter born in 1954 Bristol. The daughter was still living in Bristol 2011.

It might be worth contacting them as they obviously have later details of his life.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 30 Oct 2016 16:59

I'm still wondering if Henry went back to the Bristol area, as per the death I posted previously:

Name: Henry F Stock
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Sep 1968
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 20

but not sure how to tie it in (or not).

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 30 Oct 2016 16:55

Herbert Reginald's son Herbert David George as mentioned in the probate posted by AustinQ, was probably born Pontypridd

Births Mar 1924 Stock Herbert D G Morris Pontypridd 11a 1131


Marriage of parents

Marriages Sep 1922
MORRIS Annie M Stock Pontypridd 11a 1418
STOCK Herbert R Morris Pontypridd 11a 1418

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2016 11:17

This is Henry's parents in 1939: an explanation of who they are below:

43 Llantrisant Road , Llantrisant and Llantwit Fardre R.D., Glamorganshire, Wales

Albert Chas Pullen 23 Aug 1903 married Coal Hewer
Florence Pullen 7 Jul 1903 married Household duties
Albert Geo Pullen 21 Oct 1928 at school
Doris E Wood (Pullen) 10 Aug 1932 at school
Audrey I Gardner (Stone) (Pullen) 12 Jun 1936 Under school Age
Herbert Stock 19 Mar 1894 (possibly 1874?) married Bricklayer
Florence C Stock 4 Oct 1876 married Household duties
Hilda M Norton (Stock) 21 Dec 1925 at school
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Florence Pullen was Henry's sister- she married Albert Charles Pullen in 1928

Herbert and Florence were Henry's parents

Hilda M Stock was the grandchild of Herbert and Florence. Hilda's parents were Herbert Stock (Henry's brother) and Annie Morris.
Hilda married David Vorley Norton in 1945, and she died in Worthing in 1989

Flip

Flip Report 30 Oct 2016 09:53

In your thread on military chat you raise a doubt that Henry ever came back from WW2? It would be better to post on here & delete the other thread.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1362925

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2016 09:38

So, as was previously put, this is likely Henry F in 1911 with his family:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3 Lawrence Avenue St Marks Bristol, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Herbert Stock Head Married Male Bricklayer 37 1874 Somerset
Florence Stock Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Bedminster Somerset
George Stock Son Single Male Builder's Labourer 17 1894 Ashley Dr Gloster
William Stock Son - Male School 11 1900 Bishopston Gloster
Herbert Stock Son - Male School 9 1902 Horfield Gloster
Florence Stock Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Ashley Dr Gloster
Henry Stock Son - Male - 2 1909 Nailsea Somerset
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Bearing in mind the address, and your mention of a cafe- I think this is Henry's brother, Herbert, in 1939:

Briggs Household 238 Kingston Road , Maldon and Coombe M.B., Surrey, England

Herbert R Stock 18 Apr 1901 Male Canteen Caterer Widowed
Beatrice R Briggs 11 Apr 1897 Female Caterer Widowed
Frederick R Newby 25 Apr 1897 Male - Single
Kenneth E Sutton 01 Sep 1915 Male Bridge Erector -

(there are a couple of articles in the paper re Beatrice who is described as a dining room proprietress)
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Herbert (Henry's brother) died in 1947:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)

STOCK Herbert Reginald of 238 Kingston Road, New Malden, Surrey died 12 April 1947 Administration London 13 June to Herbert David George Stock draughtsman.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2016 09:23

Morning Joanne

The address given would have been Henry's address (not necessarily his father's address)

What was his father's occupation (was he a bricklayer?)

Who were the witnesses?

Joanne

Joanne Report 30 Oct 2016 09:05

Marrriage certificate WA722281 date 1st June 1935

Henry Stock Married Florence Louisa Loughman
Henry was 26 in 1935 Florence was 21

Henry dad Herbert R Stock of empire parade kingston road new malden
florences dad George Mathias Loughman of 14 wellington crescent new malden

I think empire parade as where shops where and Henrys sister Kitty or maybe Florence ran a café family may well have been well known in that area

can anyone help me further please

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Oct 2016 14:13

Yes, it will hopefully give age, but importantly it will give his father's name to help us find the correct Henry F stock.

I suspect he was the son of Herbert Stock and Florence Clara- as although they were in Bristol in 1911, they both died in Glamorganshire

Joanne

Joanne Report 26 Oct 2016 14:08

Yes. Just waiting for it to come through. But think just says age not date of birth

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Oct 2016 12:52

Did you order the marriage certificate Joanne?

Joanne

Joanne Report 26 Oct 2016 12:41

so just a recap we are looking for Henry Frederick Stock born circa 1909 married to Florence Loughman 1935
He was a lorry driver but his family were builders
He had sister who ran/owned a café in New Malden in mid 1940s
We though he was born in Ponytpridd / Pontypool but not known for sure

Joanne

Joanne Report 25 Oct 2016 09:34

thanks new to this so just finding my way

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Oct 2016 12:56

PM from Joanne -
Thanks for reply
We originally thought was born in Pontypridd but now not so sure as all leads from that area have lead nowehere
he sometimes used name Harry
think father was builder/manual labourer and Henry was def lorry driver
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Joanne you've marked your thread as answered and unfortunately you can't undo that now. You can however alter the heading - I suggest you put an up to date date and something like further info needed, then type in your request on the thread.

Please keep all replies to the thread Joanne, and on one thread only, so all member helpers can see what you are saying in the hopes we can help further.

As suggested above by AustinQ, you need that marriage certificate for Father's details. You will have to spend a bit of money occasionally to further research.

If or when you have it, please come back to this thread and post ALL the details from it.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 22 Oct 2016 14:40

Hello Joanne,
Do you have the marriage certificate of Henry and Florence?

If you haven't, I suggest the first step would be to get it- this will give his age, address and father's name. It would make searching for him a little easier, and ensure you are tracing the correct Henry.

You can order it here using the page and volume number:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Marriages Jun 1935 (>99%)
LOUGHMAN Florence L Stock Surrey N. E. Vol: 2a Page: 287
Stock Henry F Loughman Surrey N.E. Vol: 2a Page: 287

If you do have the marriage certificate, it would help us if you could post the details.

Dea

Dea Report 22 Oct 2016 08:15

This would be the lorry driver above who was fined:

Stock Household (5 People) 69 West Street , Evesham M.B., Worcestershire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
**Frederick H Stock 12 Mar 1911 Railway Porter Goods ***
Ralph O Stock 23 Jun 1877 Spade Handle Turner
Elizabeth Stock 14 Oct 1876 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Cecil R Stock 07 Jul 1921 Milk Roundsman
Alice F Stock (Davis) 27 Apr 1914 Jam Factory Hand

So, not him then :-(

Dea x

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 21 Oct 2016 23:45

There is a lorry driver called Frederick Henry Stock (I realise the names are reversed) living in Evesham in 1950, who appears in the Gloucestershire Echo as being fined for having an insecure load. He is employed by British Railways and his address is given.

It may not be him, but I've pmed you a snip of the article just in case it is.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 21 Oct 2016 23:21

Could Henry have gone back to Bristol?

Name: Henry F Stock
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Sep 1968
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 20

if this was him, the informant on the death cert might be a relative.