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Thank you so much Margaret for all your help. I have all this information about him now.. So now I have just a few more loose ends to sort out.

Thanks again

Jane

Charles Chorley

in the 1940 United States Federal Census
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Name: Charles Chorley
Respondent: Yes
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Neckel
House Number: 2430
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 2B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 32
Occupation: Mater Assembly
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 20
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 32
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 38
Income: 1200
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Chorley 51
Lena Chorley 44
Lafld Chorley 23

This seems to be the Michigan couple:

Charles Chorley
Birth: 1889
Death: 1958


Family links:
Spouse:
Lena Chorley (1896 - 1978)*

*Calculated relationship

Inscription:
Father

Burial:
Northview Cemetery
Dearborn
Wayne County
Michigan, USA

There's this marriage in Michigan but no dates given and no original image.

Charles Chorley

in the Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952
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Name: Charles Chorley
Gender: Male
Spouse: Lena Miller
Child: Lloyd Chorley
Film: 381
Film Title: 82 Wayne 493200-496500
Film Description: Wayne (Dates TBD)

Please can someone also look up the place and date of marriage for Charles Chorley and Lena Miller. I believe it was Illinois.. Thanks

Jane

I am now satisfied that Charles Chorley did go to Illinois America. Chris found this on the Passengr list
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) CHAS
Last name CHARLEY
Gender Male
Marital status S
Occupation LABR
Departure year 1910
Departure day 1
Departure month m 1
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name CARMANIA
Ship official number120901


I found this today on the passenger list

Arrival 10 Jan 1910
Birth abt 1888
age 22
Occupation Coal Miner
Port of Departure Queenstown Ireland
Port of arrival New York
Ships name Carmania.

Does this mean that the ship went via Queenstown Ireland? and did it really only take 9/10 days to get to America?

Thanks again for all your help.

Jane

Thank you very much for that information Chris Ho and AustinQ. I will add it to my records.

Its amazing what you have all found out for me in such a short period of time.. I have been looking for Charles Chorley for a long time.

Thank you PrickllyHolly, Chris Ho, AustinQ and MargaretM I really appreciate all the hard work you have done to help me.

All the best

Jane

(thankyou Margaret for checking Passenger images, Ancestry, no time this morning!)

Chris :)

Western Mail and South Wales News Saturday October 12th. 1935.

Deaths
CHORLEY. Oct.10th, at 30, High-street, Newbridge, Henry James CHORLEY. Funeral on Monday, 3.p.m. for Abercarn Cemetery.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GLAMORGAN/2008-11/1226261490

I think he actually joined the Royal Marines first in Feb 1915, and was later transferred.

Royal Marine Medal Roll 1914-1920
First name(s) William James
Last name Chorley
Number Deal/1123/S
Rank Sapper
Service branch Royal Marines (R.N.D. Divisional Engineers)
Medals 1914-15 Star, Victory & British War Medals
How issued No entry
Notes Transferred to Royal Engineers as 235951.
Remarks Victory & British War Medals issued by War Office (for service in Army).
ADM171 Ref 167/473

Hi Margaret

William joined the Army in 1915 so it could be him returning in 1914. Thank you so much for all your help

jane

Don't know if this could possibly be William returning? There's no more info on original.

William Chearley

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
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Name: William Chearley
Birth Date: abt 1881
Age: 33
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1914
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ship Name: Lapland
Search Ship Database: Search for the Lapland in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Red Star Line
Official Number: 127398

Thank you again PricklyHolly for all your help. I can now add a few more names and information to my tree,

Thank you MargaretM

That makes sense about him going to join his brother in Marissa Illinois. It looks as if his brother went out before him. What doesn't make sense is his fathers name being William. His fathers name was Henry.

If it is my William then there must be some record for him returning to England before 1915 when he joined the Army. If he remained in America then he should be on the 1920 census.

All the best

Jane

Not sure about this William James Chorley who emigrated to USA in 1907? He gives name of father as W. Chorley, Coronation Buildings, Newbridge, He's going to St. Clair, Illinois to join aunt, Mrs Hamilton,

William James Chorley

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
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Name: William James Chorley
Arrival Date: 20 Oct 1907
Birth Date: abt 1881
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: taunto
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Umbria
Search Ship Database: Search for the Umbria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Charles' entry to USA in 1910 doesn't have a brother with him. He gives name of relative at home as father James Chorley, High St., Newbridge, Mon.

He's going to join brother William Chorley, 351 Box, Marissa St., Charles Co., Illinois.

He seems to be with James Rees who's going to join friend William Chorley, same address. James nearest relative was mother Mrs. Anne Rees, High St., Newbridge, Mon.

Elsie Elizabeth Williams in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elsie Elizabeth Williams
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 256


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13 Main Street Newbridge Newport Mon, Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales

Charlotte Williams Head Widowm Female- 46 1865 Abercarn Mon
William Williams Son Single Male Coal Miner Hewer 27 1884 Newbridge Mon
Elsie E Williams Daughter Single Female - 16 1895 Newbridge Mon
Trevor W Williams Son Single Male - 13 1898 Newbridge Mon
Reggie H Williams Son Single Male Coal Miner Hewer 12 1899 Newbridge Mon

Elsie (E) Chorley on the 1939 Register

Williams Household (3 People)
41 North Road , Abercarn U.D., Monmouthshire, Wales

Elsie (E) Chorley 21 Sep 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 218 2
Charlotte Williams 22 Aug 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 218 1
John Chorley 25 Apr 1923 Male At School Single 218 4

2 closed records......one before and one after John

(Charlotte Williams year of birth....1864 on the image) Elsie's mother perhaps?

Births Sep 1919   (>99%)
Chorley  William H  Williams  Newport M.  11a 570
  
Births Jun 1922   (>99%)
Chorley  Elsie M  Williams  Newport M. 11a 584
  
Births Jun 1923   (>99%)
Chorley  John D  Williams Newport M.  11a 607

Thank you so much PricklyHolly.

I will add this information to my records. So if he went to America it seems he came back quite quickly.

If that was him on the 1910 census in America he must have come back soon after to have joined the Army in 1915.

All the best

Jane

The military records states he married Elsie Elizabeth Williams 18/12/1918 Newport, Monmouth.

2 witnesses.......Henry J Chorley and W Williams

Res: 41 North Road, Newport, Monmouthshire.

Marriages Mar 1918   (>99%)
Chorley  William J  Williams  Newport M. 11a 344
Williams  Elsie E Chorley Newport M. 11a 344

William James Chorley in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William James Chorley
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1882 (23rd Oct 1881)
Birth Place: Rowbarton, Somerset, England (Taunton, Somerset)
Occupation: Bricklayer
Enlistment Age: 33
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 235951
Number of Images: 27
Form Title: Attestation
Family Members:
Name
Relation to Soldier
William James Chorley
Self (Head)

Next of kin: Father H J Chorley...Newbridge, Newport, Mon


Births Dec 1881   (>99%)
CHORLEY  William James  Taunton 5c 365

William James is mentioned on his father's probate......


Henry J Chorley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Henry J Chorley
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Dec 1935
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 261


Henry James Chorley in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Henry James Chorley
Death Date: 10 Oct 1935
Death Place: Monmouthshire, Wales
Probate Date: 25 Oct 1935
Registry: Llandaff

Of 30 High Street, Newbridge, Monmouthshire.

To William James Chorley bricklayer.....and Arthur Daniel Williams unemployment Insurance board clerk.

Effects: £1164 4s 4d