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I have seached on Familysearch website for his birth certificate. Would she have needed to have one to take him back to Ireland on the ship??

OMG this is nearly too much to take in!!!!!! There really was a John Kerr!! This states his wife was Margaret McKee but I have tried to find a marriage certificate but I can't. I wonder why she came back here with a young baby??

JoonieCloonie - my dad died on 29 June 1983 in Belfast

There are 8 of us children in the family. This is a bombshell (in a good way) to us all.

Do Canada have electoral roll's, as we do in N.Ireland?

Dont know if this has any connection to this search with such common names into the mix.

Death of an infant.


Attach to Family Tree
John Kerr
mentioned in the record of Kerr
Name John Kerr
Gender Male
Wife Margaret Mckee
**Son Kerr**
Other information in the record of Kerr
from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947
Name Kerr
Event Type Death
Event Date 27 Jul 1929
Event Place York, Ontario, Canada
Gender Male
Age 0
Birth Date 27 Jul 1929
Birthplace **Toronto**
Father's Name John Kerr
Mother's Name Margaret Mckee
CITING THIS RECORD

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKHY-TZ6 : 3 January 2015), John Kerr in entry for Kerr, 27 Jul 1929; citing York, Ontario, Canada, 5945, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 2,210,916.

I don't want to put her on the spot but 'our Joonie' is a "Canadian person of professional standing" - perhaps she could help here - If not, perhaps she could advise you where to look ???

Dea x

Its so hard to get a birth certificate, you must have a guarantor, who is a Canadian person of professional standing!! I don't know any Canadian professionals. Therefore I have to write a letter to explain why I cannot provide a guarantor. :-( Has anyone else done this and were you successful in getting your certificate?

I won't ask how on earth I managed to miss those passenger records ... aieee.


As for the Ontario birth certificate, you will need a death certificate, remember.

*a deceased person; if you are the next of kin, executor or estate administrator. You will need to provide a death certificate or a funeral director’s statement of death, and any other documentation requested by ServiceOntario.*


I had asked a while back,
Can you tell us where and when your dad died?
but I don't think you answered.

Thank you so much AustinQ for the snippet!

ArglyllGran - Thank you for the link I will give it a try!

Thank you to everyone who has replied to my thread. We are absolutely delighted that this family mystery has been solved. You are all fantastic people :-D :-D

As you know your father's birth name, his mother's name, and his DOB, and as you are NOK, you MIGHT be able to get a copy of his birth cert through this site (I'm assuming you have his death cert?):

https://www.ontario.ca/page/get-or-replace-ontario-birth-certificate

You're supposed to be able to state place of birth. As all the other rumoured info seems to have turned out to be correct, you could say he was born in Toronto, and see if that works!

Thanks AustinQ.

Hi Sandra, I've sent you a snipped image of the passenger list from Choccy's link, just in case you don't have access to Ancestry.

Choccy, the link just takes me to the Ancestry home page?

This is the passenger list link which I posted at 11.56 (in case you missed it)

http://tinyurl.com/jcaqolr


:-D :-D

Choccy you are a star. Thank you so much for this. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

MargaretM - you say they were going to Croshill, Crumlin. That is where they lived when my father was small. Does it say that somewhere in the records?? How can I see the records?

I tried looking for him on Canadian search sites but couldn't find him. You have no idea how happy this makes me. Can't wait to tell the rest of my family!
It would be fantastic to be able to get a birth certificate!!

Anyone know how to apply for Canadian birth certificates?

And, yes, back as a very young baby.

omg, omg, I can;t believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The address may ring a bell with Sandra.

Very good find Choccy ,pm sent to poster to return and see your finds.

Margaret returning to Ireland with son John Kenneth aged 3 months. They're going to Crosshill, Crumlin, Co. Antrim to stay permanently in Northern Ireland. She's listed as a domestic.

Margaret McKee

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Record Image View

Name: Margaret McKee
Birth Date: abt 1906
Age: 25
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 25 Apr 1931
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Montrose
Search Ship Database: Search for the Montrose in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 145919