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Argyllgran - I think you are spot on with the ship records for Blanche Gushue, its such an uncommon name. The saleswoman Blanch is bound to be her also, as John kerr (grandfather) died in British Columbia. Is there no John Kerr on the voters list in
1935?
Is there any way to tell by a passenger record, where someone was actually going to in Canada. It seems strange that John would be sent to Canada of all places, just by chance. Why not send him to England, Ireland, somewhere closer and cheaper, I imagine to send him too!

greyhost I think it must be either of the first 2 John Alexander's since John McCreadie was away to Canada in 1925. The John Kerr in Hutchestown is not the correct one. He was born in 1900,,i have his birth registration. I would love to be able to locate the sons of John Alexander. My cousin has no idea where they lived.

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Blanche Gushue
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Blanche Gushue
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1900
Vessel: Sachem
Date of Arrival: 17 Apr 1919
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

Heading for Toronto.
Had not been in Canada before.
Single.


But there are records for other (?) Blanche Gushues in Newfoundland - one a married woman with several children, and one born c1901 in Newfoundland.

Also one (single) living in Chilliwack, Fraser Valley, BC, in 1935 - a saleswoman.
There's also a John Kerr (mechanic) and a Mrs John Kerr in Chilliwack in 1935 - but it 's a very common name, so probably doesn't mean anything.

Mias [Miss ] Blanch Gushue
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Mias [Miss ] Blanch Gushue
Occupation: Cw [saleswoman]
Year: 1935
Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia, Canada
Electoral District: Fraser Valley

Apologies if all posted before, haven't waded through 7 pages!

John McCreadie's birth - might give a clue to area for birth of son? There was a Williamina Miller birth listed as Williamina A WA Miller on SP site in Hutchesontown RD 1903 , so some of name probably missed as only certain number of characters show on index. there are other Williamina's elsewhere though.

KERR
JOHN MCCREADIE
M
1902
644/11 838
Hutchesontown

The marriage was in Blythswood RD

KERR
JOHN MCCREADIE
MILLAR
WILLIAMINA
1922
644/10 249
Blythswood

These are the birth Registrations of a John Alexander Kerr between 1922 and 1929
As they are under 100 years ago you will actually have to purchase the certificate unless anyone is going into the Records Office ?

There are many more if only registered as John.

KERR
JOHN ALEXANDER
M
1922
691/ 89
Lasswade

KERR
JOHN ALEXANDER
M
1924
644/15 1107
Hutchesontown

KERR
JOHN ALEXANDER
M
1926
572/1 23
Neilston

KERR
JOHN ALEXANDER
M
1926
044/2 5
Stoer

KERR
JOHN ALEXANDER
M
1927
644/3 1253
Calton (Glasgow)

Ah, the wonders of DNA matching, me being a big fan of it myself. :-)

Congratulations! There is nothing like a good ancestral tale of (ahem) erring-do.



(Could you please just remove the cousin's name from your last post? It isn't neessary information for us and it's a bit of an invasion of privacy, like putting living people in one's family tree.)

Congratulations, Sandra!

It was worth persevering!

Well all my lovely friends I have news. I have found John McCreadie Kerr aka grandfather!!!! He was born in Glasgow in 1900 the only son and brother to 7 sisters. His father was a painter / decorator and John used to work with him. They always had guns for shooting pheasants etc (I bet you can sense something is coming) well one day John and his father were working and argued. John tried to shoot his father! He was banished to Canada. But at the time he was sent away he had a wife, who he married in1922. They had a son, John Alexander Kerr (year unknown). He must have been less than 3 years old when his father left. His son had 4 sons, so there are more Kerrs out there in Scotland.I found his passenger record leaving Glasgow and going to Montreal, Quebec on the Saturnia departing 18 September 1925. He died on fourth February 1946 and his spouse Blanch Gushue was the informant. It states he was married but I think that must have been his Scottish marriage. If they were married I guess she would have signed as Blanch Kerr? If I'm wrong please enlighten me. Anytime the family asked what happened John or where he went, they were told he got into bad company and not to ask! He was in British columbia, worked as a ships cook. This came about from the dna test my brother Les did on Heritage site. A match came through today of a lady, 1st cousin 3 times removed. So I rang her tonight and bingo!!

:-S Don't know where to go now.

For info on 580 Ontario, these were the occupants at that address in the 1921 census:

Jene Deachman Head
Martha Deachman

Margaret Unter Head
Mrs A Matheson Lodger

R J Tallon Head
Dora Tallon

i.e. 3 separate households

Neighbouring addresses were also multi-household, some with lodgers.


The 1931 census will be available in 2023!

I think it's pretty certain that

John Kerr at 27 Superior in 1929 (1921 census and 1930 city directory as posted above)

is not

John Kerr at 580 Ontario in 1929 (son's death certificate).

:-)


I would say that it's also highly unlikely, even if the child had been his with a woman other than his wife, that he would have signed the death certificate.

And there are just so many John Kerrs in Canada at the time that identifying the one from the death certificate in 1929 in any other time and place can only be random guesswork, unfortunately.

There were 80-100 John Kerrs on the 1935 voters' list in Ontario (the earliest one available).

My thoughts on John Kerr, superior avenue are if he was the owner, it's unlikely to be him, as he was probably a lodger in Ontario Street in 1929! :-(

Oh, I have also bought a Dna kit, so will see what that brings! :-D

On the deceased sons death certificate he signs as John Kerr. His nationality is English, written over the top of something I can't make out, might be Irish. My dad said his Kerr name had Scottish origin. In 1929 at that time he was living in 580 Ontario Street. I have written off to Salvation army to see if they have anything in their records for Margaret but to date no reply.
Argyll Gran thank you so much for going through all those records. I joined my heritage website and found a 1916 Canadian census for Saskatchewan / alberta / manatoba. I have found 2 John Kerrs who seem likely suspects.
JOHN KERR age 26 Scottish nationality, living in Halifax as a lodger. He emigrated to Canada 1913.
JOHN KERR age 8 Scottish nationality, living with his family who emmigrated 1903. That's all I have found, as I just joined tonight.

A tree on Ancestry says these were Elizabeth Herriot's parents:


Parents

William Herriot 1827–1911. born 6/3/1827 in Borthwick, Midlothian.
Married 29/5/1847 in Earlston, Berwick.
Arrived in Canada 1851.
Died 17/3/1911, Arthur, Wellington, Ontario.
Buried : Southgate, Grey County, Ontario.
William's parents: John Herriot; Elizabeth Wightman


Barbara Donald 1826–1901
Born 17/2/1826, Scotland.
Seven siblings listed.
Parents:
Andrew Donald 1804–1889
Barbara Cunning 1801–1852
Died 22/11/1901, Wellington, Ontario.


Lots of proof of everything on the tree.
Widdis-Ritchie Family Tree; owner mhritchie


Nothing about Elizabeth & Alexander Kerr's children, though,.

Just a possibility:


Alex Kerr
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Alex Kerr
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1857
Date of Arrival: 27 Jul 1875
Vessel: Manitoban
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland; Liverpool, England

Alexander Kerr
in the 1881 Census of Canada
Name: Alexander Kerr
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 25
Birth Year: 1856
Birthplace: Scotland
Religion: Reformed Presbyterian
Nationality: SCOTCH (Scotish)
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Province: Ontario
District Number: 154
District: Grey South
Sub-District Number: E
Subdistrict: Egremont
Division: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Kerr 25
Elizabeth Kerr 22
Elizabeth Kerr 45
John Kerr 4
Jennett Kerr 2

Parents' marriage:

Elizabeth Herriott
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1935
Name: Elizabeth Herriott
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1858
Birth Place: Ontario
Marriage Date: 21 Feb 1877
Marriage Place: Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Father: William Herriott
Mother: Barbara Herriott
Spouse: Alexander Kerr


Alexander Kerr
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1935
Name: Alexander Kerr
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birth Place: Scotland
Marriage Date: 21 Feb 1877
Marriage Place: Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Father: Matthew Kerr
Mother: Elizabeth Kerr
Spouse: Elizabeth Herriott

Birth of his sister Janet:

Jennet Kerr
in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913
Name: Jennet Kerr
[Janet Kerr]
Date of Birth: 20 Nov 1878
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Grey, Ontario, Canada
Father's name: Alexander Kerr
Mother's name: Elizabeth Harriot


and the family in 1891 and 1901:

John Car
in the 1891 Census of Canada
Name: John Car
[John Kerr]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 14
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head-of-house: Son
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Father's name: Alexander Car
Father's Birth Place: Ontario
Mother's name: Elisabeth Car
Province: Ontario
District Number: 126
District: Wellington North
Subdistrict: Luther East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Car 35
Elisabeth Car 31
John Car 14
Jennett Car 12
May Car 10
William Car 7
Alexander Car 4
George H Car 2


John Kerr
in the 1901 Census of Canada
Name: John Kerr
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Day & Month: 27 May <<<<<<<<
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Alexander Kerr
Mother's name: Elizabeth Kerr
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: F Lab
Province: Ontario
District: Wellington (north/nord)
District Number: 125
Sub-district: Luther (East/est)
Sub-District Number: G-3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Kerr 45 - Scotland
Elizabeth Kerr 42 - Ontario
John Kerr 23
Janet Kerr 22
May Kerr 19
William Kerr 17
Alexander Kerr 14
Duncan Kerr 9
Lizzie Kerr 7
Finlay Kerr 4
Gordon Kerr 4/12

Photo of him here (he's listed as Alexander John- but appears to be the same person- listed as John on grave):

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138963926/alexander-john-kerr