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1851 Census for Weaverthorpe, Driffield please

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Frances

Frances Report 15 Sep 2016 09:47

Thank you again for your diligence ArgyllGran, I was also much perplexed by an Ag Lab living in a vicarage!
In Choccy's 1851 Betsey is put at East Lutton, which I have found on the map, close by Weaverthorpe..

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Sep 2016 11:19

1851 says Betsey was born in East Sutton, Yorkshire. I'm not sure exactly where that is, but maybe this could be her baptism ?? (Father's name as on 1839 marriage.)


Betsy Ellis
England Births and Christenings
Name Betsy Ellis
Gender Female
Christening Date 18 Apr 1809
Christening Place WEAVERTHORPE,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name George Ellis
Mother's Name Ann

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Sep 2016 11:17

???

Charles's parents' marriage? (from FreeBMD):

Marriages Sep 1839 (>99%)
Ellis Betsy Driffield 23 67
Greenwood Thomas Driffield 23 67

EDIT:
Also from FS -


Betsy Ellis
mentioned in the record of Thomas Greenwood and Betsy Ellis
Name Thomas Greenwood
Spouse's Name Betsy Ellis
Event Date 01 Sep 1839
Event Place Weaverthorpe, York, England




Betsy Ellis
mentioned in the record of Thomas Greenwood and Betsy Ellis
Name Thomas Greenwood
Spouse's Name Betsy Ellis
Event Date 03 Sep 1839
Event Place Weaverthorpe,York,England
Father's Name John Greenwood
Spouse's Father's Name George Ellis

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Sep 2016 11:05

Charles Greenwood
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Charles Greenwood
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: 1843
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Weaverthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Langtoft
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 3610
Folio: 42
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hodgson 31
Ann Hodgson 29
William H Hodgson 3
Mary J Hodgson 1
Richard Moore 19
Charles Greenwood 18 - apprentice tailor
William Summers 15
Margaret Clarkson 14

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Sep 2016 11:03

Oh, I see - The Vicarage is the address of the first household listed in the census document. Naturally, the Vicar of Weaverthorpe, Samuel Henry Dunze (sp?) lives there with his family.

But other households are just in the village, without specific addresses being given.

The Vicarage is on page 1 of the record; the Greenwood family are on page 6.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Sep 2016 10:59

I don't know where FMP gets the address of "The Vicarage" from. There's no specific address on the image.

Ancestry's version of 1851:

Charles Greenwood
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Charles Greenwood
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Greenwood
Mother's name: Betsey Greenwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Weaverthorpe
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Foston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 2366
Folio: 542
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Greenwood 37
Betsey Greenwood 41
Charles Greenwood 8
Mary A Greenwood 6
John Greenwood 7 Mo

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Sep 2016 21:09


Found on FMP

:-)

Frances

Frances Report 13 Sep 2016 20:50

Thank you Choccy, you are a star. I'm obviously not looking in the right places!

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Sep 2016 20:36


Yorkshire, bishop's transcripts of baptisms


First name(s) Charles

Last name Greenwood

Birth year -

Baptism year 1842

Baptism date 28 Nov 1842

Baptism place Weaverthorpe

Father's first name(s) Thomas

Mother's first name(s) Betsy

County Yorkshire (East Riding)

Country England

Event type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Source year range 1690-1790
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives

Page 127


http://tinyurl.com/gurmv76


Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Sep 2016 20:32



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census


The Vicarage, Driffield, Yorkshire, England


Thomas Greenwood Head Married Male 37 1814 Ag Lab Wykeham, Yorkshire, England

Betsey Greenwood Wife Married Female 41 1810 - East Lutton, Yorkshire, England

>>>>>>Charles Greenwood Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England

Mary A Greenwood Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England

John Greenwood Son - Male 0 1851 - Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England

Frances

Frances Report 13 Sep 2016 20:13

ArgyllGran has explored the distaff side with great results but poor young Charles has been left all on his lonesome ... :-

Births Jun 1842
Greenwood Charles Driffield
23 50

I reckon that in 1851 he was possibly with his parents and siblings. I have searched in IGI without any success but possibly he is in the 1851 census. Driffield presumably covers his birthplace of Weaverthorpe but can anybody see him there please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Frances

Frances Report 12 Sep 2016 16:57

Thank you ArgyllGran, you have been so busy whilst Iv'e been away, at my chores!

I have copied it all out into my Word file and will investigate it further later.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2016 12:44

John & Ann Verity had two other daughters - Mary born 1805, and Ann born 1816.

Can't find record of marriage to Welburn or variant, but maybe one of them was Ann & Jane's mother.

EDIT:
Most likely Ann, given the YOB's of Jane & Ann jr.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2016 12:19


Elizabeth Peck
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Peck
[Elizabeth Verity]
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: 1809
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Ann Verity
Gender: Female
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Beverley St Nicholas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Beverley
Sub-registration district: Beverley
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 3570
Folio: 65
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Verity 81
Elizabeth Peck 52 - sawyer's widow
James Peck 2


Elizabeth Peck
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Peck
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Beverley
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 73


Elizabeth Verity
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage:
27 November 1826
Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley, York, England
spouse:
John Peck

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2016 12:14

Elizabeth Peck and children in the workhouse in 1841.

Presumably she's not Ann & Jane's mother ??

Elizabeth Peck
in the 1841 England Census

Name: Elizabeth Peck
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
[Beverlely, Yorkshire, England]
Civil Parish: St Martin and St Nicholas
Hundred: Beverley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Beverley
Sub-registration district: Beverley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1229
Book: 15
Folio: 4
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Peck 30
Charles Peck 9
George Peck 3
James Peck 1

(plus lots of other people)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2016 12:11

Anne Welburn
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Anne Welburn
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1845
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Beverley St Nicholas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Beverley
Sub-registration district: Beverley
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 3570
Folio: 74
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Neutz 32
Ellen Neutz 29
Arthur Neutz 5
Mary Neutz 4
George Neutz 2
Anne Neutz 1/12
Harriet A Cardwell 13
Anne Welburn 16


Ann Welburn
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ann Welburn
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Beverley St Nicholas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Beverley
Sub-registration district: South Cave
ED, institution, or vessel: 15c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 2359
Folio: 578
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Veritz 74
Ann Veritz 71
Elizabeth Peck 43 - daughter
George Peck 13 - grandsoon
Jane Welburn 10 - gr-daughter
Ann Welburn 6 - gr-daughter

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2016 12:06

Ann's birth (1871 census says she was born Beverley)

Births Jun 1845 (>99%)
Welburn Ann Beverley 23 3


And her husband Charles's birth (born Weaverthorpe per 1871 census):

Births Jun 1842 (>99%)
Greenwood Charles Driffield 23 50

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2016 11:53

Possibly Charles T's parents' marriage ??:

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)

Greenwood Charles Scarbro 9d 521
Welburn Ann Scarbro 9d 521


Frances

Frances Report 12 Sep 2016 10:59

Thanks Choccy, I can now start looking for this previous generation. There was a second potential birth in 1870 but as he doesn't appear in the '71 census, I can discard him (possibly checking that he didn't die as an infant!)

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Sep 2016 10:46



Yorkshire Marriages

First name(s) Charles Thomas

Last name Greenwood

Age 22

Birth year 1869

Marriage year 1891

Marriage date 11 Nov 1891

Marriage place Scarborough, St Mary

Residence 37 Sussex St

Father's first name(s) Charles

Father's last name Greenwood

Spouse's first name(s) Annie

Spouse's last name Nixson

Spouse's age 24

Spouse's residence Marine Terrace

Spouse's father's first name(s) William

Spouse's father's last name Nixson

County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England

Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service

Archive reference PE 165/33

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