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Baptism dates are not always close to the birth. I have had many baptisms at a few days or weeks old but I've also had quite a few doing mass baptisms ranging from a baby to a 7 year old plus 1 adult baptism. All you know is that child was there at the baptism. I had one little baby baptised then buried so was baptised when dead.

:-)

The Parish Records are held at Cambridgeshire Archives (In Cambridge) Pauline, so should be online, if you have found Baptism there...

(or you can purchase cd's from below)

https://www.cfhs.org.uk/index.cfm?tag=1

(CFHS Shop, then Search)

Chris :)

(you can also search Baptisms/Burials 1801 - 1837 on above, go to Research, then Search)

Edits (below has Doddington, a useful free link, doesn't cover all Cambs. Parishes though)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Have found William Jones Baptism 1803 Doddington Cambs
Father John Jones, Mother Eliza
Wife Sarah Dickerson 1801 March Cambs
Father Richard , mother Rachel

I really would like to get further back on William and father John Jones, any help gratefully received

The reason being that my daughter and family now live in DODDINGTON , which makes it really interesting for us. When I get the chance will definitely get to the church, and the is only 1 in Doddington now, so hopefully my get to see the records

Q. Are the baptism dates close to birth date , as can't find the actual birth date ?

Seems when using Genes search, you need 'All Categories' then 'Births Marriages Deaths' then 'Collections in this Category' Births & Baptisms (or whatever!) then 'Records in this Collection' Cambridgeshire comes up in list...

(and after that lot enough to give you headache!, lol, unless of course there is a quicker way)

Chris :)

GR should have Cambridgeshire Baptisms...(Find My Past do, perhaps not so easy to find on GR!)

Chris :)

Would say the Richard/Rachel was likely, as Parents of Mary Ann Dolby (Dalby on 1826 Baptism, March) were William and Ann Dickerson. Baptism March 1804 Ann Dickenson, Parents Richard/Rachel

Perhaps Sarah and Ann were Sisters...


(reference was below couple)

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Dolby Mary Ann Clerkenwell 1b 691
Jones George Clerkenwell 1b 691

(George Baptism, March 1826 1 Oct, Parents William, Sarah Dickerson)

(as for William Jones, could be quite a few, maybe wasn't March)

jude, thanks for the offer. I have (FMP) marriage of William Jones 21/october 1823
to Sarah Dickerson. Have found 2 Sarah Dickerson baptism One 29th May1800. Parents John And mary., also found Sarah Dickerson 18th Jan 1801 Parents Richard and Rachel both in March. Can.t find Williams birth . The GR records don't show anything
Would be grateful for any help with this if possible.
I am walking wounded at moment , so a bit restricted in movements!! (Don't ask how!)
P

Ah good news Pauline! I wouldn't worry about the lack of middle name...maybe he never used it?

Several of us have FMP (I have Britain) so given the correct info to search on we can do it for you (to save you spending).

Jude

Yes thanks Chris, I have quiet a lot, need to sort it out, may have to rejoin FMP, as I think they have a lot of older data. That,s where I got my original info from

I also have the info that you kindly found. I may be back, !!
Coffe Time me thinks

Yes, thought that might be St. Barts.

As for Cambs., have given you a start with Baptisms, March., not sure what you already have, don't want to repeat!.

Chris :)

Edits (not getting cert. of below then?, just to confirm Parents)

Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
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Jones Albert Archibald Holborn 1b 736

Hi Helpers
Dc arrived.
Albert Jones (no middle name) died 22.8.1923 (42)at St Bartholomew's , Hospital Verified by widow M Jones, and still living at Parkfield Street.
So thanks Chris. Will not bother to look for service record, as too many Albert Jones, and no one alive (all too young) can help.
So now carry on back to Cambridgeshire!!

Quite a tall order that Pauline, lol, have a look at how many there are for that name on a search below, some Albert A., number then needs checking out, transferring to Ancestry, or FMP for starters...


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-medal-index-cards-1914-1920/

Chris :)

(Albert A 576826 Death 1918. as Arthur Albert)


(Jones Albert Alfred 1916 Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920, For 12309)

While waiting for DC. Can any one help with the military records for Albert?
I know he was in ww1, but not the regiment. i guess probably a london one.i have records for another relative (another Stem) and found it very interesting to read, would be nice to see what Albert was involved in

Just to let you know. I have ordered the Dc for the 1923 death,that Chris kindly found for me. Will keep you informed of the result next week when it arrives 99.99 % it's the right one (Fingers Crossed as well!)

Austin, agree with you Not the 1925 december.
Iam trying to order the DC for A Jones died Aug 1923,. At moment having trouble with the GRO web site. I will try again to-morrow

I don't know if the 1923 death is correct, but I do now doubt the Albert A Jones 1925 Hackney death

I believe that was for an Albert Anthony Jones

Burial Register summary
last name Jones
first names Albert Anthony
Burial date 21 December 1925
AuthorityLocation Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)

(as posted earlier, Burial details, would perhaps give abode)

Chris :)

Deaths Sep 1923 (>99%)
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JONES Albert 42 London C. 1c 21

(comes up on DO website as below, perhaps died in hospital)

Burial Register summary
Jones Albert
Burial date
30 August 1923
Authority London Borough of Islington
Location Islington Cemetery (Islington)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(use above Pauline, free, and a lot easier!)


ALBERT JONES England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Collections fromGreat BritainCountryEnglandCountyLondonYear1923Birth Year1881Age42Event Quarter3DistrictLONDON CITY

(as above GR, too hard going!)

Chris, can you give me reference to death 30/8/1923, please .I Am, convinced that is the right one, and would like to send for cert. i cant find it on GR

I also have the cert for Albert Junior marriage in 1933, and that states albert was deceased, so rules out the later deaths . thanks


I must say that maybe giving your kids weird names (Jamie Oliver?) maybe not such a bad idea, after all.

Possibly Eddie ??

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
Caton Edgar Edmonton 3a 339

EDIT: No, in 1911 Eddie is listed as Edward.
Can't find his birth, therefore.


Maybe Millie ???

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Caton Minnie Edmonton 3a 342

Can't see brother John's birth

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)
CATON John Holborn 1b 1160
KELLY Ellen Holborn 1b 1160

Margaret in 1901 :

Maggie Caton
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Maggie Caton
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: John Caton
Mother: Ellen Caton
Birth Place: Islington, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 184
Folio: 88
Page Number: 33
Household schedule number: 248
Household Members:
Name Age
John Caton 46
Ellen Caton 39
Ellen Caton 20
Maggie Caton 14
John Caton 10
Millie Caton 6
Eddie Caton 8
(and four boarders)



Birth of older sister Ellen:

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
CATON Ellen Islington 1b 391

That Morgan tree on Ancestry (for what it's worth!) says this is Margaret in 1891:

Margaret Caton
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Margaret Caton
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Caton
Mother's name: Ellen Caton
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 154
Folio: 128
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
John Caton 31
Ellen Caton 27
Ellen Caton 16
Margaret Caton 4
David Caton 3
James Caton 17 - brother of John Caton
John Bradley 62 - boarder
David Kelly 29 - boarder



I can't see the birth of Margaret's brother David in Islington, either.