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hi thanks for the replies thus far
Shirley- where did you get the other child might be Sarah?
also I got the youngest childs birth cert- the mothers name is Sarah New Late Williams, formerly Winters
Also Ward Edith Winifred Croydon 2a 231- is this meant to be Edith new if so where is the 'ward'
Thanks Austin Q I have this info
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1939:
New Household (5 People) 19 Waverley Road , Croydon C.B., Surrey, England
Henry G New 13 Jun 1874 Male Plasterer Building Trade Married
Nellie New 10 Feb 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Albert G Cox 24 Feb 1899 Male Clerk Incapacitated Married
Phyllis A Cox 05 Oct 1902 Female Clerk Drapers & Furnishers Married
Lily O (Lillian) New 17 Apr 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
One closed record
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For Reference: 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
128, Livingstone Road, Croydon, Surrey, England
Henry G New Head Married Male 26 1875 Plasterer Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire,
Louisa New Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Essex, England
Victor J New Son - Male 3 1898 - Surrey, England
William J New Son - Male 2 1899 - Surrey, England
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
66 Exeter Road Croydon Surrey, Croydon, Surrey, England
Henry George New Head Married Male Plasterer 36 1875 Oxford Watlington
Sarah New Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Hereford Ashwell
Edith Winifred New Daughter - Female School 14 1897 Surrey Croydon
Victor John New Son - Male School 13 1898 Surrey Croydon
William James New Son - Male School 12 1899 Surrey Croydon
Annie Muriel New Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Surrey Croydon
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looks like the other child may be Sarah,s
there is a big gap from 1899 birth to the youngest one
would suggest getting the birth cert of the youngest to see mums name
Births Sep 1909
NEW Annie Muriel Croydon 2a 260
????births Mar 1898
Ward Edith Winifred Croydon 2a 231
edit maybe not
1901 census
Name: Edith W Ward
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Montague Ward
Mother: Annie Ward
Birth Place: Thornton Heath
Civil Parish: Croydon
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 73
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 646
Folio: 137
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
Montague Ward 39
Annie Ward 42
Alice E Ward 12
Annie L Ward 10
Helen T Ward 8
Edith W Ward 3
Mary T Beauchamp
but theres no birth reg for an Edith w New
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Maybe they were just living together.
People didnt want others to know their business so they would lie to cover up
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Hi,
I have a dilemma maybe you have some suggestions.
My Gt Grandfather Henry George New B 1874 in Oxford m a woman called Louisa Elizabeth Cole Bex in 1896 in Thornton Heath and they had 2 children Victor John and William James. In the 1911 census he is living with his wife called Sarah new in Croydon with 4 children - victor, William but also Edith Winifred and Annie Muriel - it states on the census that they have been married 15 years and have had 5 children. This puts them married at the same time as he married Louisa Elizabeth
Henry George marries again in 1920 as a 'widower'
I cannot find any deaths or divorces from his first wife or second- nor can I find a marriage to his second wife.
Q- Was Louisa really Sarah and vise versa?
Q- what happened to the rest of their children
Q- Did someone lie to the census people?
any ideas or evidence gratefully received! :-D
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