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Ah! She had knocked a few years off her age in 1939 (probably because Charles was much younger)

Gertrude May Jaye
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1886
Date of Registration: Feb 1984
Age at Death: 98
Registration district: Uckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 1503

Marlborough Road , Southgate M.B., Middlesex, England

Gertrude M (May G) Jaye
DOB 19 Feb 1892
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Ambulance All In Hand ?
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 180
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Charles G Jaye
Robert D Limnell
Olivia M L Payton
Ref: RG101/0890H/014/03 Letter Code:
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That can't be her if the DOB is correct as she would only have been 15 when she married Arthur

Good find Dea!

Gertrude M Steeden
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1930
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Charles G Jaye
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 587


Wonder if Gertrude and Arthur divorced.

Oh dear !!!

We have been looking for a death or other info for Arthur's 1st wife Constance (according to the marriage below and posted on previous page):

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)*OSBORNE Constance Annie Southwark 1d 306 Scan available - click to view
Porter Gertrude May Southwark 1d 306 Scan available - click to view
PRIOR George Frederick Southwark 1d 306 Scan available - click to view
STEEDEN Arthur Joseph Southwark 1d 306 Scan available - click to view


BUT it seems that Constance married the other male on the page according to this :



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10a Oxenford St E Dulwich SE, Camberwell, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George Frederick Prior Head Married Male Sinotype Operator 28 1883 London Walworth
Constance Annie Prior Wife Married Female - 27 1884 London Camberwell

SO - 'our' Arthur must have married Gertrude May ??

That may account for her appearing on the 1911 with his as 'M' - she must have used her middle name?

Sorry to have put the cat amongst the pigeons............. ;-)

I will take a look further.

Dea x

This is the family on 1891:


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Selden Road, Camberwell, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Walter W Steeden Head Married Male 33 1858 Packing Case Maker Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth J Steeden Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
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Mary A R Steeden Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England
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Esther M Steeden Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England
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Arthur J Steeden Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England
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Frederick C Steeden Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England
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Nelly M Steeden Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Camberwell, Middlesex, England
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Florence E Steeden Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Camberwell, Middlesex, England

Dea x

Name: Arthur Steeden
Age: 5
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1884
School: Galley Wall Road School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 29 Apr 1889
Parent: Walter
Notes: Galleywall School (0359) opened in 1876. Remodelled in 1902. Became Galleywall Primary School in 1951
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/GAL/AD/003

Also with Brother Fred b. 24 Nov. 1885.

Both of 1 Cranley Rd.
Father Walter was a Packing Case Maker.

Dea x

That certainly seems to be the same man Dea. I only see a birth for one Arthur Joseph around that time. There is also a record of him going to and returning from South Africa. I note on the above that he is described as married and also on the 1939 register. I have found his probate and he had remarried in 1939. His son Walter is single and living with Arthur's mother in 1939. I just can't find anything on his first wife, no death or remarriage.

Might be of interest?
Lancashire Evening Post 01 December 1931

DEFENDENT TO PAY £1 A MONTH ON JUDGEMENT SUMMONS.

Arthur Joseph Steeden, described as a secretary, of King St,
Covent Garden, was the defendent in a judgement summons
at Westminster County Court today, respecting £880 9s. 11d.
due to the Rev. William Henry Norris and Mrs. Susan May Norris,
his wife, of Longton Vicarage, Preston Lancashire.
Judge Sir Alfred Tobin: It is a large sum. How is it owing ?
Mr. F.H. Adams, solicitor: It is the result of a motor accidentand judgement for damages obtained in the High Court.
It was stated by Mr. Steeden that he was under the impression
that his policy of insurance covered the accident risk at the time,
but the insurance company repudiated it.
Judge Tobin: It is a very dreadful thing not being insured.
What can you do about it? Bad for you and for the unfortunate
clergyman and his wife who were injured.
Mr. Adams said that Mr. Steeden and his wife received £2. 10s.
a week at the club and had board and lodgings free.
Mr. Steeden: I can only offer a pound a month.
Judge Tobin: Pay one pound a month and no committal.

Dea x

15 Flart 1 Cresswell Gardens , Kensington, London, England

Edith M Carton (Steeden,Day)
DOB 07 Nov 1906
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Manageress Hotel Catering
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 184
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Ref: RG101/0309H/011/03 Letter Code: AMCE
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Arthur Joseph Steeden
Probate Date: 3 May 1940
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 26 Nov 1939
Death Place: London, England


Probate granted to Edith Mary Steedon, widow.



Marriages Dec 1939
Day Edith M Steeden Westminster 1a 1668
Steeden Arthur J Day Westminster 1a 1668


Wonder what happened to Constance Annie, I can't find a death or remarriage for her.

This looks to be the family in 1911 but why his wife is given as M. Steeden who's knows? (He's with Constance Steeden on 1928 ER).

A Steeden
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 13 Merrick Square, Borough S E
Occupation: DEALER
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: Newington North
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 1797
Household Members:
Name Age
A Steeden 27
M Steeden 25
W Steeden 3
S Steeden 2

Arthur Joseph Steeden
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Southwark
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 306

Records on Page:
Name
Constance Annie Osborne
Gertrude May Porter
George Frederick Prior
Arthur Joseph Steeden

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Steeden Arthur Joseph St. Saviour 1d 17

Wonder if this was her father? Not unusual to find an exaggerated occupation on a marriage certificate.


Lane Household (7 People)
The George & Dreyon Hotel , Tonbridge R.D., Kent, England


Arthur J Steeden
DOB 02 Apr 1884
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Catering Club Secretary
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 39
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 6

James F Lane
DOB 09 Feb 1893
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Hotel Keeper ( Licensed)
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 39
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Alice E Lane
DOB 27 Dec 1895
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 39
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

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Elizabeth D W Lister
DOB 01 Dec 1912
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Hotel Assistant
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 39
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 7

Ref: RG101/1861G/005/10 Letter Code:
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Is it just possible that Lilian was already married?????

urname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1940 (>99%)
Crout Lilian M Steeden Westminster 1a 1127
Steeden Walter A Crout Westminster 1a 1127

Birth is a year out but right area

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Crout Lilian M Berwise Lambeth 1d 596

Andy

could your mother have been married before


Marriages Dec 1940 (>99%)

Crout Lilian M Steeden Westminster 1a 1127

this looks like the birth of lilian m crout


Births Dec 1919 (>99%)

Crout Lilian M Berwise Lambeth 1d 596

Deaths Dec 1926
Steeden Arthur E 56 Brentford 3a 118

Deaths Dec 1939
Steeden Arthur J 55 Kensington 1a 248

ours is 59 on the 3rd August. sadly hubby isnt here to celebrate it as i lost him last Oct

another first coming up since he passed :-( <3

Shirley, you may be right (a long time ago!) I also had to admit being under 21 , Diamond coming up in October!

there is a birth for a boy in 1940 Steeden mmn Steeden