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Richard is a lodger with a Elizabeth Noble on a census but I can't find her on the 1851 either.

I wonder if these census are missing???

Mel I have checked out that Gaol Record and it's not my Thomas Prynn.

Thanks though.

If she was on her own and not with Richard on that census she may have said she was a widow to get church relief. She states she is a Wool Comber and the Richard I found was also a Wool Comber.

We are trying Prickles. It is so annoying when you get stuck. I know from my own experience.

You could be right about the Church Relief.

I really do appreciate all your help.

I will keep plodding on and get back to you if I find anything of interest.

MENHENIOT. - A serious accident occured at Wheal
Mary Ann Mine on Friday night, the 13th instant, about
ten o'clock, to Richard Prin, a miner, residing an Menheniot,
who had both hands shattered, whilst blasting a hole in
the said mine. It appears that he with another man had
set fire to their last hole for the night, and were about to
ascend, when not hearing any report of an explosion, they
returned and began boring out the hole again, Prin turning
the borer, which striking fire ignited the powder, and
caused the explosion which deprived the poor fellow of both
his hands.

Dea x

Can anyone else find Elizabeth Noble on the 1841 and 1851 please. She is down as a Shop Keeper on the 1861.

For ref.

Name: Elizabeth Noble
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Menheniot
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:SHOP KEEPER*************

Condition as to marriage: WIDOW*************

Registration district: Liskeard
Sub-registration district: Liskeard
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 1528
Folio: 5
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Noble 44
Richard Prin 69

Thank you very much Dea.

I will take a look Mel.

Gosh it must have been terrible down those mines.

I was watching Full Steam Ahead the other night and they showed how they drilled holes with a big long spike that they had to keep turning each time they rammed it in.

That was in a slate mine but the same thing in other mines too.

??

Elizabeth Noble in the 1851 England Census

Name:
Elizabeth Noble
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert J Noble
Gender: Female
Where born: Menheniot, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Household Members:

Robert J Noble 26 (Master Mariner)
Elizabeth Noble 30
Nancy Noble 53 (Mother)


Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)
Drake Elizabeth Stoke Damerel 9 513
Noble Robert John Stoke Damerel 9 513


The Richard Prinn on the 1851 census in Bradford, Yorkshire.......has a wife Margaret.

Mis-transcribed as Rinn on Ancestry

Household Members:

Richard Rinn 56
Margret Rinn 43 Harewood, Yorkshire, England

O well I tried but it seems we can rule those out.

I am still plodding on Mel.

2 hairs left on my head!

:-D

did Richard marry again?


Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)

Clamens Matilda Liskeard 5c 105 Scan available - click to view
PRYNN Richard Liskeard 5c 105

That Richard is from Looe and a Fisherman.

Matilda is from Launceston.

Name: Matilda Prynn
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Richard Prynn
Gender: Female
Where born: Launceston, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: East Looe
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Church Street
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Liskeard
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2287
Folio: 123
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Prynn 39
Matilda Prynn 42
Matilda Gaskel 10

1871 Mistranscribed.

Matilda Poyner
[Matilda Prynn]
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Poyner
Gender: Female
Where born: Launceston, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: East Looe
Ecclesiastical parish: East Looe and West Looe
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Liskeard
Sub-registration district: Looe
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 261
Piece: 2243
Folio: 27
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Poyner 29
Matilda Poyner 32

Well Prickles my hair reaches my knees but is breaking off every time I comb it so it is getting near to two!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should see what goes in the bin each morning and night.

Have you seen this?

Name: Richard Prinn
Birth Date: abt 1794
Gender: Male
Age at Start of Service: 23
First Service Date: 27 Sep 1817
First Ship Served On: Favorite
Last Service Date: 15 Aug 1841*****************
Last Ship Served On: Victory
Record Type: Entry Books of Certificates
Date Range: 1834 Jan - 1836 May

Burial
County Cornwall
Place Menheniot
Church name St Lalluwy
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 146
Burial date 23 Apr 1854
Person age 65
Burial person forename Martha
Burial person surname PRIN
Burial person abode Liskeard Union Workhouse

(above from below, if relating, or anything else)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


(not forgetting below, haven't had time yet to check round!)

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

edits (looking on above, about 5 Baptisms relating, not sure what names you have, below looks to be last)


Baptism
Day Month 26-May
Year 1822
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename Richard
Surname PRYNN
Sex Male
Father Forename Richard
Mother Forename Martha
Residence Pool
Father Rank Profession Wool Comber

Chris :)

(reference Marriage)

Day Month 21-Nov
Year 1814
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Groom Fn Richard
Groom Sn PRYNN
Groom Age
Groom Residence Menheniot
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Martha
Bride Sn COOK
Bride Age
Bride Residence Sojourner O T P
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) Banns
Witness Fn1 John
Witness Sn1 JAGO
Witness Fn2 William
Witness Sn2 FORD
Other Information With consent of Parents. F Cole, Off. Min.


Day Month 14-Feb
Year 1843
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Groom Fn Thomas Pooley
Groom Sn PRYN
Groom Age
Groom Residence Pool
Groom Condition bachelor
Groom Rank Profession labourer
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name Richard
Groom Father Rank Profession labourer
Bride Fn Catherine
Bride Sn PARSONS
Bride Age
Bride Residence Pool
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Bride Father Name Thomas
Bride Father Rank Profession labourer
Banns / Licence (B/L)
Witness Fn1 William
Witness Sn1 PRYN
Witness Fn2 William
Witness Sn2 FORD


County Cornwall
Place Menheniot
Church name St Lalluwy
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 62
Marriage date 30 Mar 1848
Groom forename Henry
Groom surname PRIN
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Menheniot
Groom occupation Miner
Bride forename Eliza Mary
Bride surname OUGH
Bride condition Minor
Bride abode Menheniot
Groom father forename Richard
Groom father surname PRIN
Groom father occupation Woolcomber
Bride father forename Benedict
Bride father surname OUGH
Bride father occupation Mason
Witness William ROWE
Witness Benedict OUGH


(bit more on that accident)

25 November 1857 - The Cornish Telegraph - Penzance, Cornwall

Serious Mining Accident.
On Friday, a serious accident happened to a man named Richard Prynn, while working at Wheal Mary Ann Mine...

(ends by saying, He has by this unfortunate accident become incapacitated from doing anything towards the maintenance of his family, consisting of a wife and 4 children.)


Oh, below result, from google search wheal mary ann mine

http://www.cornwall-online.co.uk/history/cmi/article1.htm


At first sight it appears that other than census returns very few records exist that may help us to put some flesh and blood on these nameless thousands. However, through conventional research and the badgering of fellow researchers it has transpired that a surprising amount of archives survive, in both public and private collections. By attempting to collate all references to Cornish miners and their families that I come across, it is possible to develop a clearer picture of their lives from the cradle to the grave, and it is with this objective that a computer database named THE CORNISH MINING INDEX has been instigated. For example, a search for a RICHARD PRIN(N) of Menheniot provides us with quite a revealing image of his life (sources in brackets). RICHARD PRIN(N) son of RICHARD and MARTHA, born circa 1822, married ELIZABETH BARRETT born circa 1825 at Stoke Damerell on 5 April 1846 (Strays Index). On the night of 30th March 1851 Richard, his wife and one year old son HENRY are residing at Menheniot, and Richard's occupation is given as Lead miner (1851 Census). However this was not to be for long, for on 13th November 1857 Richard's hands are shattered in an explosion at Wheal Mary Ann, which ultimately drew to a close his mining career ("The Cornish Times" 22-11-1857). But Richard must have been quite some character, despite having lost both arms, in 1864 he is working as a wagon driver. Unfortunately fate was unkind yet again, for on 7th June 1864 whilst delivering coal with his son Henry in Liskeard he is fatally injured when a chimney of a house being demolished fell on him ("The Cornish Times" 11-6-1864), and was finally laid to rest at Menheniot on 17th June 1864.


Burial
Day Month 17-Jun
Year 1864
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename Richard
Surname PRYN
Age 42
Residence Menheniot


(well, can only end by saying poor man or what!!)

Thank you Mel and Chris for the added information.

My eyes are crossed right now and my brain hurts.....but I will check out the info you posted in the morning.

Much appreciated. xxx

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1352917

(don't know David above do you, I posted about 'chimney' article there, wondered why I had a 'tick, as Viewed Image before' by 1846 Marriage, Stoke Damerel. FMP)

Chris :)

(Father Richard occ. on Marriage image, Woolcomber)