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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Goodson Road, Brockley, Greenwich, London, England

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Robert Foxwell Head Married Male 37 1854 Lighter Man Rotherhithe, Middlesex, England
Catherine Foxwell Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
Beatrice Foxwell Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
Clara Foxwell Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Bermondsey, Middlesex, England
Annie Foxwell Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Camberwell, Middlesex, England
Kate Foxwell Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Camberwell, Middlesex, England
William Soper Wifes Father Widower Male 82 1809 Tailor Middlesex, England

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Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-2010 Transcription
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First name(s) ROBERT
Last name Foxwell
Birth year -
Master's first name(s) George Pearce
Master's last name White
Bound year 1870
Bound day 17
Bound month May
Place -
Date free 11 Mar 1879
Where from notes Bermondseyy
Source Binding Records 1692-1949
Record set Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-2010
Category Education & work
Subcategory Occupations
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Just wondering if this is relevant?

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
SOPER Ruth Eleanor St.Olave 1d 270

Births Jun 1872 (>99%)

STEVENS Ruth Eleanor St. Olave 1d 270

It does seem that that marriage gives surname as spelling REED, but I wouldn't rule it out, her father is given as John Reed, on Beatrice Kate's batism her father is given as John Soper

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Beatrice Kate
Last name Reed
Name note -
Age 23
Marriage year 1895
Marriage date 21 Dec 1895
Marriage place Newington
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Reed
Spouse's first name(s) William Hardy
Spouse's last name Leeks
Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
Spouse's father's last name Leeks
Residence Newington, Surrey, England
County Surrey
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


Either way buying Beatrice Kate's birth cert will give DOB and that can be cross checked with the DOB given on the 1939 register.

Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
Soper Beatrice Kate St. Olave 1d 215

EDIT YES it is the right marriage, as one of the witnesses is Clara A Foxwell. ( image at Ancestry). father "deceased"...

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Leeks Household (2 People)
171 Trundleys Road , Deptford, London, England

Beatrice K Leeks 17 Dec 1876 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Alfred E Leeks 01 Nov 1912 Handy Man Corporation Of Lloyds

possible if Read has been mistyped?

Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)

Leeks William Hardy St. Saviour 1d 95
Reed Beatrice Kate St. Saviour 1d 95

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
102 Trundley Road New X SE, St Paul Deptford, London, England

William Hardy Leeks Head Married Male Iron Roofing Erector 46 1865 Suffolk Nayland
Beatrice Kate Leeks Wife Married Female - 33 1878 London Bermondsey
Mable Francis Leeks Daughter Single Female Biscuit Packer 14 1897 London Rotherhithe
Henry Leonard Leeks Son Single Male - 12 1899 London Rotherhithe
Dorothy Susannah Leeks Daughter Single Female - 11 1900 London Deptford
Voilet Maud Leeks Daughter Single Female - 8 1903 London Deptford
Thomas Fredrick Leeks Son Single Male - 2 1909 London Deptford
Emily Mobbs Boarder Single Female General Servant Domestic 42 1869 London St James

Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Cock William Edward St. Olave 1d 331

Foxwell Clara Ann St. Olave 1d 331

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
72 Fawcett Road, St Paul Deptford, London, England

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W E Cock Head Married Male Generel Labour 41 1870 Parish of Bermondsey
Clara Cock Wife Married Female At Oil Mill 33 1878 London Bermondsey
Beatrice Cock Daughter - Female School 12 1899 London Rotherithe
John Cock Son - Male School 8 1903 London Deptford
Alfred Cock Son - Male - 0 1911 London Deptford

I don't know if you've got this,

Clara Anne Foxwell
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Clara Anne Foxwell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Feb 1892
Father's name: Robert Foxwell
Mother's name: Kate Foxwell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Rotherhithe St Katharine
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

NOTE Clara is baptised as an adult age 13.

I'm inclined to think that Ruth and Beatrice were born Soper

Name: Beatrice Kate Soper
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1877
Father's name: John Soper
Mother's name: Katherine Soper
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey Christ Church
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Ruth Eleanor Soper
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Ruth Eleanor Soper
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1872
Father's name: John Soper
Mother's name: Kate Soper
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey Christ Church
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

she most likely just lived with a man named read never married him they did lie on census

So do we know why Catherine soper wrote her name as read in the census when Robert Foxwell was next door. How many kids did they have together? Who was she a widow to?

Catherine's death


Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%)

Foxwell Catherine 67 Greenwich 1d 1091

Robert's death


Deaths Mar 1913 (>99%)

Foxwell Robert 58 Greenwich 1d 1263

Robert in 1901

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Robert Foxwell

England and Wales Census, 1901

Name Robert Foxwell
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place St Paul Deptford, London, Middlesex, England
County London, Middlesex
Civil Parish St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical Parish St Lukes
Sub-District Deptford North
Registration District Greenwich
Residence Note Trundley Road
Gender Male
Age 48
Occupation LIGHTERMAN S C DOCKS
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1853
Birthplace Bermondsey, London
Schedule Type 287
Page Number 41



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Robert Foxwell Head M 48 Bermondsey, London
Kathleen Foxwell Wife F 50 Bermondsey, London
Alfred G Foxwell Son M 8 Deptford, London

is this is the Robert foxwell in the 1861 census


Births Sep 1853 (>99%)

FOXWELL Robert Bermondsey 1d 61

No she is the daughter of Ann Degenhurt Read and William lemon Soper

AND that 1864 marriage is nothing to do with the family. As you can see that marriage was in Oxfordshire . The family you are looking at live in the London area

So is Catherine Soper who marries Robert Foxwell not the child of ann and william read?

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Ann Degenhart Read
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage:
30 September 1845 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England
father:
William Degenhart Read
spouse:
William Lemon Soper
other:
William Soper
Ann Digerhart Read
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:
26 December 1822
christening:
16 January 1823 SAINT LEONARDS, SHOREDITCH, LONDON, ENGLAND
father:
William Read
mother:
Catherine

It was in 1864 Shirley not 1874 !!

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
Bennett Henry Robert Oxford 3a 870 Scan available - click to view
Carr Caroline Oxford 3a 870 Scan available - click to view
Soper Catherine Oxford 3a 870 Scan available - click to view
Soper George Oxford 3a 870 Scan available - click to view

Dea x

Not finding that marriage can you post it please

Bear in mind too that at that time there were several couples to one page so unless you find them on later census you can't say who married who . You have to buy the cert naming one person to see who the spouse was

What about the marriage of Catherine Soper and George Soper in 1874? 3a/870 Whats that about? Are they incest?

Name: Ann Digerhant Read
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Jan 1823
Father's name: William Read
Mother's name: Catherine Read
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 26 Dec 1822


Soooo the Catherine Read of the 1871 census could be the grandmother

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1124644

(somebody else researching?, might be worth a check in 'Search All member Trees' (top right of page here under 'Search')

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/1105519

(your previous one)

They are all living at the same address in 1881

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Name: William Soper
Age: 72
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: London City of, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 48 Parfitt Rd
Marital Status: Widower
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tailor
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 579
Folio: 114
Page Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
William Soper 72
Richard Soper 14

Catherine Read
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 48 Parfitt Rd
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Waistcoat Maker
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 579
Folio: 114
Page Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Read 32. Widow !!!!
Ruth Read 9
Beatrice Read 4
Clara Read 1

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Name: Robert Foxwell
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 48 Parfitt Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Lighterman
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 579
Folio: 114
Page Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Jackson 50
Ann Jackson 34
Rosa Jackson 10
Robert Foxwell 23


So Catherine may have been using her mums maiden name to cover she wasn't married

Edit. This could be the birth for Clara


Name: Clara Ann Read
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 315