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Agnes Ohara, helen(Nellie) laidlaw

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GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Jun 2016 09:48

Alicia,
I have sent an email to my friend ( your Dad's cousin)

I haven't spoken to him for over a year because the library that I sometimes worked at has closed due to cutbacks, but hopefully, he will still have the same email address.

His mother died a couple of years ago but, his father, your grandmother's youngest brother was definitely still living when I last spoke to him.

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 20:40

thanks AustinQ ivegotthe address going to write and see what other details they are able to offer :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2016 20:08

George was born Dec 1952- registered 1953.

Just in case you didn't see my previous message:

"Son was George D Sutton - there's an address on U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993 Ancestry for him living in Woburn Massachusetts in 1993. Date of birth matches that given on passenger record.

If you google his name and Woburn, Massachusetts you'll find him. Married to Elaine"

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 13 Jun 2016 19:53

Joonie,
Sorry, I wasn't here earlier or I could have saved you all the bother.
I still have all the info held in my files
Workmen in the house. No Electricity for most of the day ( last 2 weeks with 1 week still to go )

This Laidlaw family possibly originate somewhere in Kirkcudbright.
We know that the earliest ancestor was called James Laidlay/Laidley who was a master Mariner but worked in coastal waters.
We don't know where James Laidlaw/Laidley came from but, his wife was definitely from Colvend.

He does not appear on any census returns as is assumed to have died before any census return.
2 known children were born circa 1815 & 1818


1841: Wife/Widow using maiden name. She died in Dumfries in 1866.
Janet Young
Age 45
Estimated Birth Year abt 1796
Gender Female
Where born Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Civil parish Colvend
County Kirkcudbrightshire
Address Corsock
Occupation Ag Lab
Parish Number 861
Household Members
Name Age
Janet Young 45
James Laidlay 21..... Alicia's direct ancestor who married in Ayrshire

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 19:28

thanks again JoonieCloonie, asked dad he couldnt remember a lot only with all you guys help I think things came back, and I have a great start to getting one side of the family tree done :)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 13 Jun 2016 19:08

My greatx2 grandfather's second wife was a Laidlaw (from Jedburgh) so who knows, maybe we are (un)related too. :-)

Great stuff from GlasgowLass there -- where were you earlier?! :-D

but Alicia, about that stuff from your dad ... always best to ask the people who have info first, and then the total strangers!

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 13 Jun 2016 18:52

Yes, Helen's first husband was Clement William Sutton married 1945
2 sons located from the marriage born 1947 and 1952

2nd husband was Edward Guerin.. married in 1957
Details of one son born 962 was filled in by my friend as I do not research living or recently deceased persons.

I can't post details as they may still be living

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 18:49

I was looking for 1952 birth thanks argyllgran, that gives me more thanks :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2016 18:36

Helen married Clement Sutton in Rutherglen in 1945.

George D was born in Hillhead, Glasgow in 1953.
It only shows up on SP if you don't put in the middle initial - perhaps that's why you couldn't find him, Alicia. Or perhaps you've only looked for a 1952 birth, as you said. (At least, I assume you've been looking on ScotlandsPeople? You won't find it anywhere else.)

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 18:18

I found out from my dad there is a Robert Sutton(passed away 1990) Edward Guerin born around 1963 and john guerin (johnny as dad remembers him)
:-)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 13 Jun 2016 16:29

Alicia,
I know quite a bit about this family.

I have a friend (last name O'Hara) and I helped him with his family tree and did a lot of research for/with him.
He must be your cousin because his father is the youngest brother of the people mentioned in your opening post.( Margaret, Helen & Agnes)
Helen Love Seaton Laidlaw O'Hara ( 1st child from her father's 2nd marriage or possibly his 2nd wife's own child) was married twice.
First to Clement William Sutton, 2nd to Edward Guerin

We did find the 1947 McLaughlin/ OHara marriage and I assume they are your grandparents?

Edit:
If the 1947 marriage refers to your grandparents, my friend is 1st cousin to your father

I have sent a PM to Alicia as I still have a large file held on my PC regarding this family.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2016 15:43

Son was George D Sutton - there's an address on U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993 Ancestry for him living in Woburn Massachusetts in 1993. Date of birth matches that given on passenger record.

If you google his name and Woburn, Massachusetts you'll find him. Married to Elaine

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 14:22

thank you, JoonieCloonie, ive tried searching George Sutton born 1952 nothing as of yet but will keep looking :-)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 13 Jun 2016 14:04

Alicia, click the link I gave you for info about Agnes and family.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJCX-Z9YS

Her husband and, presumably, children - or at least other family members - are named there.

It gives the address and telephone number. (We don't post that kind of personal information directly at this site.)

As I said, I confirmed at whitepages.com that the info seems to be current for the household.

Also, the info posted by AustinQ shows the name of a child travelling to the US with Helen Sutton (her first husband's surname).

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 13:54

I never found anything about children I found dates of depature for both,
Agnes on 4th june 1953 and helen 17th feb 1946. on Parker?


JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 13 Jun 2016 12:42

I guess we should have sent a message to 'Unknown' asking that they return to the thread and answer questions, and it all might have been clear! :-)

Ah there you are, you posted while I was looking around some more!

So we know of one child of Helen and (it seems) two children of Agnes.

The death that I posted on spec was our Helen (birthdate matches other records):

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VS8H-73X

Age 66
Given Name Helen
Middle Name L
Surname Guerin
> Birth Date 08 Aug 1924
State Massachusetts
Event Date 03 Jan 1990

Alicia

Alicia Report 13 Jun 2016 12:16

thank you I have started to build and by all information I have got a great start on agnes


:) :-)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Jun 2016 12:05

I'll let Alicia know how to find her replies..... :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2016 09:40

This looks like both sister's travelling together:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1955
Port of Departure: Prestwick, Scotland
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Airline: British Overseas Airways Corporation

Helen L Sutton
George D Sutton (Child)
Agnes L O'hara

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2016 09:22

Aha! Helen's surname was actually Laidlaw after all, per birth record on SP:

1924 LAIDLAW HELEN LOVE SEAT [Seaton ??] F HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/15 1065


Her mother Janet married James Ohara in 1926.