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24 May 2016 18:19 |
taken off dob, you are right
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ArgyllGran
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24 May 2016 18:01 |
Perhaps remove the daughters' exact details, Maddie? They are probably still alive - at least they were last year, at the time of their mother's death..
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Maddie
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24 May 2016 16:23 |
he had 2 children
Brigetta born Valmeiria Mara Inarra born Flensburg Germany he married Ann on 22.06.1940 in Valmeria . She was born 24.6.1911 entered USA 03.08.1950 all living at 566 orange ave Yuma He is an accontant-auditor
info from this record posted above
Eduards Vitolins
in the Arizona, State Court Naturalization Records, 1869-1976
there are lots of docs on ancestry pertaining to the daughters
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24 May 2016 16:13 |
Eduards Vitolins
in the Arizona, State Court Naturalization Records, 1869-1976 Record Image View
Name: Eduards Vitolins Birth Date: 13 Jul 1912 Birth Place: Latvia, Ventspils County Gender: Male Petition Date: 3 May 1956 Petition Place: Yuma, Yuma, Arizona, USA Petition Age: 43
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24 May 2016 16:05 |
Eduard A Vitolins
in the U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2 Record Image No Image Text-only collection
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Name: Eduard A Vitolins Address: 2241 W 5th St, Yuma, AZ, 85364
Eduard A . Vitolins
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
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Name: Eduard A . Vitolins Birth Date: 1912 Death Date: 1984 Cemetery: Desert Lawn Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Yuma, Yuma County, Arizona, USA Has Bio?: N Spouse: Anna Margareta Vitolins URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
Edward Vitolins
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Name: Edward Vitolins SSN: 527-38-8809 Last Residence: 85364 Yuma, Yuma, Arizona, USA BORN: 13 Jul 1912 Died: Sep 1984 State (Year) SSN issued: Arizona (Before 1951)
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Lisa
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24 May 2016 12:09 |
Brilliant thanks all!
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SylviaInCanada
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24 May 2016 00:31 |
her voyage from London to New York in Dec 1922 is shown as Eliza!
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Eliza Hartshorn Gender: Female Age: 44 Birth Date: abt 1908 Departure Date: 8 Dec 1952 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Queen Elizabeth Search Ship Database: Search for the Queen Elizabeth in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Cunard Steam Ship Company, Limited Official Number: 166290 Master: H Grattidge
from image:-
UK Address:- 158 Percival Road, Bush Hill Pk, Enfield Occupation:- H'wife
Travelling Cabin class
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ArgyllGran
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23 May 2016 23:11 |
Aha! The address on the naturalisation record is 566 Orange Avenue, Yuma - that's the address Elsa visited in 1952-3.
So Anna was definitely Elsa Licis / Zatler / Hartshorn's sister, and their parents were Jules and Anna..
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23 May 2016 22:59 |
Lisa - if you know anyone in the US, get them to find Anna Vitolins' address from whitepages (assuming she's still alive - now 104-5) if you think she might be a sister of Elsa.
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Vitolins/Yuma-AZ
There's also a younger Anna Vitolins living in Yuma - maybe a grand-daughter ??
EDIT: No - Anna 1911 died last year:
Anna Margareta Vitolins in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Anna Margareta Vitolins Birth Date: 24 Jun 1911 Birth Place: Latvia Death Date: 30 May 2015 Death Place: Yuma, Yuma County, Arizona, USA Cemetery: Desert Lawn Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Yuma, Yuma County, Arizona, USA Has Bio?: Y Spouse: Eduard A. Vitolins URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
Anna Vitolins in the U.S., Obituary Collection, 1930 - 2015 Name: Anna Vitolins Gender: Female Age at Death: 103 Birth Date: 24 Jun 1911 Birth Place: Valmiera, Valmiera, Latvia <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Residence (at time of death): Yuma, Arizona, USA Death Date: 30 May 2015 Obituary Date: 2 Jun 2015
The findagrave link says she arrived in Yuma in 1950 - that would fit with Elsa going to visit her in 1952.
Anna Margareta Vitolins in the Arizona, State Court Naturalization Records, 1869-1976 Name: Anna Margareta Vitolins Birth Date: 24 Jun 1911 Birth Place: Valmiera, Latvia Gender: Female Petition Date: 3 May 1956 Petition Place: Yuma, Yuma, Arizona, USA Petition Age: 44
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ArgyllGran
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23 May 2016 20:11 |
Life story of Anna Vitolins (nee Licis) of Yuma, born 1911, in Valmera, Latvia, same place as Elsa.
http://tinyurl.com/gol6t6t
Interesting life-story - with parents' names - and she had sisters.
This isn't the same Anna as died in 1971, and is nearer Elza in age than the other one, so they might be sisters. Possibly the one who died in 1971 could be their mother ??
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Whitepages.com still lists the Anna born 1880 and died 1971 - says she's 136!
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ArgyllGran
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23 May 2016 20:00 |
As Elsa / Elza had been visiting Yuma, Arizona in 1952-3, I wonder if this is some relation ??
Anna Licis in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 Name: Anna Licis SSN: 526-86-9226 Last Residence: 85364 Yuma, Yuma, Arizona, USA BORN: 23 Feb 1880 Died: Dec 1971 State (Year) SSN issued: Arizona (1965)
She's buried in the same cemetery as Elza. (EDIT: Actually, I think it's a crematorium garden of remembrance.) Desert Lawn Memorial Park
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ArgyllGran
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22 May 2016 16:33 |
Elsa Hartshorn in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Elsa Hartshorn Year: 1954 County or Borough: Enfield Ward or Division/Constituency: Enfield South East Street address: 158 Percival Road <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Same as in 1953 travel record above.
Living with James. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Maddie
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22 May 2016 16:29 |
Elza A Hartshorn
in the U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2
Name: Elza A Hartshorn Birth Date: 28 Apr 1908 Address: 7725 Reseda Blvd Apt 305, Reseda, CA, 91335-9201
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ArgyllGran
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22 May 2016 16:28 |
This was her outward journey on that trip:
Elza Hartshorn in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Elza Hartshorn Arrival Date: 13 Dec 1952 Birth Date: abt 1908 Age: 44 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English) Place of Origin: Britain Port of Departure: Southampton, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Queen Elizabeth
Address: 566 Orange Avenue, Yuma, Arizona. Married <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Two pieces of luggage!
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ArgyllGran
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22 May 2016 16:24 |
Coming from US to UK, earlier than the outward travel record posted by Maddie:
Elza Hartshorn in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Elza Hartshorn Birth Date: abt 1908 Age: 45 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 25 May 1953 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ship Name: Queen Elizabeth Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd Official Number: 166290
Proposed address: 158 Percival Road, Enfield, Middlesex. (Was on 1954 ER for Enfield, as posted earlier.)
Country of last permanent residence: England.
She's a shop assistant. But travelling cabin class on the Queen Elizabeth ?.
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Lisa
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22 May 2016 16:18 |
Thank you Andy
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ArgyllGran
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22 May 2016 16:18 |
Grave of Elza Adolfine:
http://tinyurl.com/j4se7bg
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Andrew
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22 May 2016 16:17 |
Massachusetts, Birth Index, 1901-1960 and 1967-1970
Name:Elsa Lihcis Birth Date:1908 Birth Place:Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA Volume Number:575 Page Number:352 Index Volume Number:76 Reference Number:F63.M362 v.76
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22 May 2016 16:15 |
????
California, Death Index, 1940-1997 : Elsa Scroggins [Elsa Licis] Social Security #:012162850 Gender:Female Birth Date:17 Feb 1908 Birth Place:Massachusetts Death Date:16 Dec 1992 Death Place:San Francisco Mother's Maiden Name:Sprogis Father's Surname:Licis
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22 May 2016 16:14 |
But then there's this:
Elza Aldofine Hartshorn in the California, Death Index, 1940-1997 Name: Elza Aldofine Hartshorn [Elza Aldofine Lilis] Social Security #: 571623677 Gender: Female Birth Date: 28 Apr 1908 Birth Place: Other Country Death Date: 17 Nov 1983 Death Place: Los Angeles Mother's Maiden Name: Grivins Father's Surname: Lilis
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