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thats what is on her birth certificate and his birth certificate 1944
Edit :
Sue father was James Alexander Cameron born 1944 death 2013

The ones in Canada The kids have the same father as sue

Yes, I saw those ArgyllGran but, somewhere on the other thread Detail says he died in 1962.
I don't know where?
The friend who is looking for half siblings in Canada would NOT have known this grandfather if he died in 1962 which contradicts the info that I was given

From Detail 18.04
"Alexander John Cameron and Agnes was in Oban."

What are you referring to?

Re death of Alexander John (jr) -

As his wife Agnes died in Edinburgh, maybe one of these is his death ??

1972 CAMERON ALEXANDER JOHN M 73 HAYMARKET EDINBURGH CITY/LOTHIAN REGION 730/00 0145

1975 CAMERON ALEXANDER JOHN M 77
LEITH EDINBURGH CITY/EDINBURGH 732/00 0361

These are the only deaths for that name, in Edinburgh, 1936 - 99

That's the point Detail.
There is NO birth record for anyone with this name born in Edinburgh 1944

Hi
It was James Alexander Cameron carer Brain James Daventry registered his death,

Which is the same name on the passport
DOB it says 23 July 1944


Alexander John Cameron and Agnes was in Oban.

ArgyllGran,
I wondered about Ian because it's his son's name.

I have no doubt that the Cameron family moved from Oban to Edinburgh but, the question is when did they move?

Alexander John was living in Oban when he married his 1st wife in 1924
She died in Oban in 1935 and Alexander John was STILL living there where he remarried in 1936.
If JA had children from his 1st marriage, I expect that they would be born in Oban.
Depending on when JA and Agnes moved to Edinburgh, they too may have had children born in Oban.

I know they were in Edinburgh by 1960's but it doesn't necessarily mean their children were born there.
This needs a GRO visit... LOL

Re: father JA Cameron Snr who died in 1928
I misread his obituary and thought it I saw that he was born in Dingwall.
Having re read it, I see he was born in the county of Ross and left a legacy to the hospital in Dingwall.. DOH!

If GlasgowLass's suggestion that his name was Ian is feasible, there was a birth of an Ian James Cameron in Edinburgh in 1944, and also a John James Cameron.

Ian is Gaelic for John - but these two births are two separate people.

There's also an Alastair Hugh born Edinburgh 1944. Alastair (and other spellings) is Gaelic for Alexander.

And an Ian with no middle name.

Why do you think his name might have been Ian, GL?
Because his grandfather was from Ross-shire and had the middle name of John, perhaps , with possible Gaelic connection?

Incidentally, his grandfather was born in Fodderty, per 1901 census posted on page 1, near but not actually Dingwall.

Detail,
I was going over your previous thread re James Alexander Cameron b Jul 1944 in Edinburgh and died in Poole. Dorset in 2013
He was the son of Alexander John Cameron with 2nd wife Agnes Cunningham.
Agnes Cunningham was already 30yrs old when she married in 1936.

A child born 1944 is 8yrs after her marriage and she would already be in her late 30's at this time
I assume that his father, Alexander John Cameron will also have older children from his 1st marriage with Martha Buchanan and perhaps more with Agnes.

I agree with what was said on your previous thread.
There was no child named James Alexander Cameron born Edinburgh 5yrs either side of 1944.
Is James Alexander Cameron the name on Sue's birth cert?
Who registered his 2013 death? Was it Sue or someone else?
Can I assume that his date of birth actually came from his passport rather than a birth certificate?
Please ask Sue where the DOB came from.

Lots of questions but I dont think his birth name was James Alexander.
I wonder if his name was Ian Cameron

I'm not certain exactly where and when his father died but my guess is that his mother was the woman who died in Edinburgh in 1985 as the death index on SP fits her profile.
Agnes Cameron, other name Cunningham age 78

Am I correct in assuming that this son, known as James Alexander, his Canadian wife and children all travelled from Canada to Scotland for this funeral?

One last question.
What document does Sue hold that states her father was the son of Alexander John Cameron with Agnes Cunningham?

After a few google searches, I discovered that Alexander John Cameron (Snr) is famous for creating John Dewars White Label ( Blended Whiskey) in 1898.

There is also a tree on Ancestry where the tree owner seems to be directly descended from son, William Dawson Cameron from a 2nd marriage.
If this tree is correct, William remarried in Edinburgh 1947 to:
Millicent Doris Erasmusen or Morrison
This tree also states he died in Edinburgh in 1952

( checked SP and this death exists. approx year of birth: 1911)

1 1947 CAMERON WILLIAM DAWSON ERASMUSON MILLICENT D MORNINGSIDE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/07 0222

3 1947 CAMERON WILLIAM DAWSON MORRISON MILLICENT DORIS MORNINGSIDE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/07 0222

Search of SP shows death;
ISABELLA CHISHOLM CAMERON , other name DAWSON
Died Perth 1928 age 54 yrs.
This is the same year as her husband .

No Death Announcement found

Children so far with Alexander John Cameron

Alexander John b 1898 m Martha Buchanan & Agnes Cunningham
Isabella B 1900 M David Blaik ?
Annie Francis B 1908 m Frederick L Richardson
William Dawson b 1911 m Evelyn A Hume

Edit:
Found the death announcement in Dundee Coureir dated 14 Mar 1928
She died just 5 months before her husband

Isabella Chisholm Cameron wife of AJ Cameron of Beechwood, Perth.
Died at Perth Royal Infirmary 13 Mar 1928

These are wonderful, I cant thank you all enough for all this information,

this is a brilliant find of the family
x

Death of Alexander John Cameron's ( Jun) 1st wife

Scotsman
Thurdsay 18 Apr 1935
This article names Alexander John Cameron ( Jun) as Alistair John but the address matches with that of his 2nd marriage to Agnes Cunningham

DEATHS
At Glenquaich. Oban on 17 Apr 1935, MARTHA BUCHANAN beloved wife of Alistair John Cameron.
Funeral to Pennyfuir Cemetery this Friday at 2pm.
Friends, please accept this as ( the only) intimation and Invitation

Yes, that works now. :-D
One would have thought that if the contents were set for everyone to see, the folder link would work. That's GR for you!

Thanks Det
Never really used it before although I did set to share with everyone but, I'll try again.
Let me know if you can view now

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/30473213
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/30473086
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/30472870
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/30473845

Is there a way for others to view an entire folder?

Edit:
Added another one.
1936 Marriage of Annie Francie Cameron, daughter of the Late AJ Cameron, Beechwood, Perth to Frederick Leslie Richardson

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/30473753

Glasgowlass - the link to the folder on Keepsafe doesn't work. Anyone who clicks on it gets taken to their own Keepsafe.

Open each individual image etc, set it to 'shared with everyone' then copy the individual url to the thread.

Did we find out who Alexander John's ( jun) first wife was or did I miss it on the thread?
I found the marriage announcement

He married MARTHA MCWHANNELL BUCHANAN in Glasgow on 24 Oct 1924
She was the daughter of TW Buchanan of 67 Victoria Park South, Scotstoun, Glasgow


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/30473213

EEK !
Found another Article in the Dundee Courier.

By the look of things, AJ Cameron ( Snr) wasn't the Cabinetmaker.
( discovered that was a firm of 3 brothers named A. J & D Camero

AJ Cameron (Snr) was a Director in John Dewars Distillery.Perth
He died 26 Aug 1928 and he wasn't from Perth... He was born in Dingwall.
His moveable estate totalled over £211,000

I've put the article in the same keepsake folder for you to read

Wedding Photo of William Dawson Cameron and Evelyn Anne Hume

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/folder/contents/1

The Oban Distillery Co bought the existing distillery in 1924, according to this:

http://tinyurl.com/zlro6bo
so that's why AJC bought his shares, I expect. Maybe that's when he became manager.

Although he is stated to be a distillery manager on his marriage cert in 1936, Oban distillery was mothballed 1931-37, also per that page.