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He seems to have got his comeuppance here. Give me a few minutes again :-)

Leicester Daily Mercury 28 January 1890


THE AFFAIRS OF MR R E MARSHALL

The public examination of Robert Edward Marshall of Nuneaton, formerly a solicitor practising at Nuneaton, Leicester, Hinckley and Atherstone, commenced yesterday before Mr CA Kirby, deputy registrar at the County Hall, Coventry. The debtor was represented by Mr RH Buckby with whom he was formerly in partnership. After a lengthy examination the Official Receiver asked the Deputy Registrar to adjourn the examination for a month and order the debtor to prepare a cash amount from Jan 1, 1888 showing the whole of his bill transactions and giving details as to the money received under the various wills in which he was interested. The examination was then adjourned until Feb 24, the order asked for being made.



Ahhh no we still don't know what happened to him !!

Just make something up then!!

:-D ;-)

Leicester Chronicle 05 April 1890

Here some of the accounts had been produced but they were judged to be useless as dates had not been added to some and others were without names and signatures.

He was ordered to file a dated cash account and provide other transactions but in answer to questions, he said that he had not at present arranged to go to Canada but he could not and should not comply with the order; it was impossible for him to do so. He was told he had to do it as the court had been very lenient with him.

No sign of Robert and the 2 Lily's on the 1911 census as far as I can see.

Birmingham Daily Post 29 July 1890

BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS

Still not providing cash and accounts that he had been asked for. He mentions an Aunt, Mrs Warwick for whom he was acting executor and from whom he had inherited some jewellery since his bankruptcy. He had pawned some of it and moved to Solihull to work for a firm of solicitors who knew all about his bankruptcy. The examination was adjourned again to a court before His Honour Sir Richard Harington, Bart., judge.

Hello Ethel??

:-)

On Lily Frances' Probate in 1962 it is granted to Gladys Beryl Kelsey married woman. There is a marriage in Kensington in 1938 of a Harold Kelsey to a Gladys Beryl Marshall.

Looking at the 1939 Register there is an entry in Kensington for a Harold Kelsey with a wife Gladys born 6 Oct 1903 (the image says 1903 but transcript says 1890)

Wonder whether there is a connection or just a coincidence.

Here is her death. A bit different on date of birth.


Name:
Gladys Beryl Kelsey
Birth Date:
7 Oct 1902
Date of Registration:
Mar 1991
Age at Death:
88
Registration district:
Hove
Inferred County:
Sussex
Volume:
18
Page:
1262


I wonder about this birth?


Name:
Beryl Gladys M Parish
Registration Year:
1902
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:
Greenwich
Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:
London
Volume:
1d
Page:
1029

Another one I can't find in 1911.


:-S

Sorry, the date of birth for Gladys Kelsey was 7 Oct 1903 not 6 Oct so that looks to be her death even though it says 1902.

Looks like that birth you have found Alevigal is a very good contender and that Gladys was born in 1902; wonder whether the M is for Marshall?

I wondered about that birth too Alviegal.

I have 5 windows open on Ancestry and I have been going round and round in circles.

This is what I come up with.........."Possibly" the parents of Lily Frances Parish.

On the School Admission Record for Lily in 1888, it states her father is George.

?????

Lilly F . Parish in the 1881 England Census
Name: Lilly F . Parish
Age: 1
Estimated birth year:1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Geo. Parish
Mother: Ann Parish
Gender: Female
Where born: Shadwell
Civil Parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 17 Mehetabel Rd
Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney

Household Members:

Geo. Parish 25 (Policeman) Devonshire)
Ann Parish 23 Essex
Lilly F. Parish 1


???

George Henry Parish in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: George Henry Parish (Bachelor) Labourer
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Age: 21
Spouse: Ann Wiltshire (Spinster)
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Jun 1879
Parish: St Thomas, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Parish (Labourer)
Spouse Father: John Wiltshire (Soldier) Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: George and Henrietta Randell


Ann Wiltshire in the 1861 England Census
Name: Ann Wiltshire
Age: 10/12
Estimated birth year: 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Wiltshire
Mother's name: Jane Wiltshire
Gender: Female
Where born: Dagenham, Essex, England
Civil Parish Dagenham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Romford

Household Members:

John Wiltshire 38 (Army Pensioner)
Jane Wiltshire 31
John Wiltshire 7
Ann Wiltshire 10/12

Mother Jane is a widow on the 1871 census.

Ann dies in 1886.......

Deaths Jun 1886 (>99%)
Parish Annie 25 Hackney 1b 253

Back in a mo.........

George remarries in 1887.........

George Parish in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: George Parish (Widower) Police Constable
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 27
Spouse: Ada Hannah Barber (Spinster)
Spouse Age:19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Dec 1887
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Peckham
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Williams Parish (Farmer)
Spouse Father:John Barber (Soldier) Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Edgor? and Agnes Barber

George Parish in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Parish
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ada Parish
Gender: Male
Where born: Chawleigh, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Household Members:

George Parish 30 (Police Constable)
Ada Parish 22
Geo Wm Parish 2
Agnes Ada Parish 1


George Parish in the 1911 England Census
Name:George Parish
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leigh, Devonshire, England
Civil Parish: St Margaret and St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 189 Vauxhall Bridge Road, Westminster S W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: INSPECTOR N S P V V .........NSPCC on the image.
Registration district: St George, Hanover Square

Household Members:

George Parish 50
Hannah Parish 42 St Neots
George William Parish 22
Agnes Hannah Parish 21
Florence Harriet Parish 19
Edgar Harry Parish 17
Daisy Parish 13
Arthur Parish 7

Married 24 years.......10 children born, 7 living, 3 had died.

Pure speculation of course.........A copy of Lily's birth cert is needed here.

????

This is interesting........Lily is a Visitor with John E and Catherine E Barber.

A relative of Ada Hannah Barber?

Fily F Parish in the 1891 England Census
Name: Fily F Parish
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: St George E, London, England
Civil Parish: Tingewick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Tingewick
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Household Members:

John E Barber 38 (Sergeant Major 4th Hussars) Norfolk Norwich
Catherine E Barber 28
Bernard J Curran 11
Fily F Parish 10 .........Lily on the image

Ada Hannah Barber was actually born.........Hannah Ada Barber

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Hannah Ada Barber
Birth: Oct 1868 - St Neots, Huntingdonshire


Hannah A Barber in the 1871 England Census
Name:Hannah A Barber
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Hannah Barber
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: St Neots
Town: St Neots
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England
Registration district: St Neots

Household Members:

Hannah Barber 44 (Widow) Cheltenham
Saml G Barber 16
Agnes Barber 15
Harry E Barber 9
Hannah A Barber 2


Hannah Barber in the 1861 England Census
Name: Hannah Barber
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Barber
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancaster, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Hindley
Town: Hindley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Household Members:

John Barber 43 (Chelsea Pensioner....Sergeant Major Yeomanry Cavalry)
Hannah Barber 34
John E Barber 8 >>>>>>>1853 Lancaster, Norwich, Norfolk, <<<<<<<
Samuel G Barber 7
Agness Barber 5
Charles Barber 2
Edgard Barber 4

So Lily was visiting Hannah's brother in 1891.

I would like to thank all who have replied to this enquiry. It is a very strange mixed up group of people involved. At the time of birth of J JP Marshall in 1912 his Father appears to be 52 yrs old, and on census records although shown as married does not seem to live with wife. I will go through all the info sent and once again, many thanks.

George Parish in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Parish
Age: 3/12
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Son
Father's name: Wm Parish
Mother's name: Harriet Parish
Gender: Male
Where born: Chawleigh, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Chawleigh
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Household Members:

Wm Parish 33 (Ag Lab) Wembworthy Devon
Harriet Parish 32
James Parish 9
John Parish 5
Thos Parish 2
George Parish 3/12
Eliza Parish 8
Hannah Tolly 74 (Mother in Law) Widow


William Parish in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Parish
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriett Parish
Gender: Male
Where born: Wembworthy, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Chawleigh
Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Morchard

Household Members:

William Parish 23 (Ag Lab)
Harriett Parish 22 (Turnpike Gate Keeper)
Richard Parish 2

Res: Turnpike House.

William died in 1900........he can easily be found on the census records.

Harriet died in 1896.

Hi Ethel

Thank you for your reply.

Once you have had time to sort through all the info......you can always get back to us if you need to.

Prickles. :-)

Hi again Ethel

I have sent you a PM with an attachment of William and Harriet's wedding, which took place in 1846.

Prickles. ;o))

This is possibly Lily in 1901

??

Lily Parish in the 1901 England Census
Name: Lily Parish
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Deptford, London, England
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul

Registration district:Greenwich

Household Members:


John Haigh 82
Jane S Haigh 81
Susannah A Haigh 51
Lily Parish 19 (Servant)

Greenwich was where Beryl was born.

Harold Kelsey in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Harold Kelsey
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Dec 1964
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Marylebone
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 328



Harold Kelsey in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Harold Kelsey
Probate Date: 5 Feb 1965
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 21 Nov 1964
Death Place: Sussex, England

Of 91 Mill Road, Burgess Hill, Sussex........Died at Middlesex Hospital, St Marylebone.

To Gladys Beryl Kelsey widow..........Effects: £8114