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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Burnes

(Burness reference on above, also articles Newspapers relating)


http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

Findmypast also carry, both need subscriptions


http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/scancatalogue/welcome.aspx

(The SCAN online catalogue is an electronic database, describing historical records in more than fifty Scottish archives)

(probably things relating on above)

Chris :)


29 December 1938 - Dundee Evening Telegraph - Dundee, Angus,

Robert Burns - or Burness
HERE and THERE BURNS lovers in Aberdeen are to make effort to raise funds for the erection of a memorial over the graves of the forebears of Robert Burns in the churchyard of the Kincardineshire parish of Glenbervie. The graves ...”


20 January 1894 - Motherwell Times - Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland

ANNIVERSARY OF ROBERT BURNS.
"political or other sufficient reasons adopted the name of Walter Burnhouse or Burness. that as it may, we have direct line descent from one bearing the latter name William Burness, who migrated Ayrshire the middle of the eighteenth century. William married Agnes Brown, a native of Carrick, Ayrshire, on 15th December 1759, and, in order to better his position rented some seven acres of land about two miles from the town of Ayr. Upon this land he erected an "auld clay biggin" within whose walls our Poet was born 17th January 1759...

more good references for you to follow up, Elsiemary

I have name(s) to try and research backwards hoping to establish Link to Burns/Burness:
Peter Mitchell b approx 1921 died approx 1989
Married Betty Lane approx 1947 ? Possibly Birmingham area
Peter's father : James Mitchell Mitchell (correct not a misprint)
Trying to establish father of James Mitchell Mitchell.
Mitchell family may be recorded at Stonehaven Scotland
Possible link to Margaret Burness.
Can anyone help please ?

Elsiemary

the place to look for Scottish records is Scotland's People. That is NOT a subscription site, you have to buy credits to look at information.

It is unfair to ask other members to spend their own money to do your research.

It is possible to search on that site for free, and to see if there are any records, and then to buy credits to look at the records selectively.


Otherwise, use the Mormon site Family Search, which is free, or Google

I am is aware that the Mitchells lived at Stonehaven, which is in Kincardineshire which is where the Burns/Burness link is. ,

yes, but that means that Scotland's people is probably the record ............ and everyone has to BUY credits

It is not a subscription site where you can look up many records for one price, one has to pay to look at the detail for every single record.

THAT is why it is unfair to ask other people to spend their own money to do your research.

YOU yourself can search on Scotland's People for free, see if there are any records available, and then choose which records you are going to pay to see.

SylviainCanada - I wasn't asking other members to spend their credits researching for me. I am aware that some members of G.R have links to sites and/or have far more 'professional' knowledge of gaining information than I have.
Or, perhaps they could 'point' me in a direction where I may find this information myself.

Elsiemary

you have been pointed towards to Scotland's People, and to several other sites where you might be able to find information ................... several membaers ahve posted links in earlier posts on this thread.

Yes, those members who help on here usually do have subscriptions to sites such as ancestry and FindMyPast, and may know about other "weird" sites where information may be found. I, for example, often direct people to a site called the Blacksmiths Index, which most have never heard of. I found it by accident!

Unfortunately, research in Scotland involves Scotland's People, and also FamilySearch appears to have Parish Records.

Family Search is a free site, and is fine if you keep to documented records. Their "Member Submitted Information" tend to be "iffy" at best.

I've also found that using Google can sometimes produce nuggets of gold! Because of Google, I found a 1791 marriage in the Parish Records for a small town in Yorkshire.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/

there is a Scottish area section on this free site for asking questions,replies often come from local people with local knowledge,perhaps someone has delved into Burns,

Deleted wrong info!

See my post 17 May 09.43

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Shoesmiths Yard, 1, Ratten Row, Halifax, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sarah Mitchell Head Married Female 61 1800 Washerwoman Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Maria Stell Mitchell Daughter Widow Female 23 1838 Cotton Spinner Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Jas Mitchell Mitchell Son - Male 3 1858 - Halifax, Yorkshire, England

I can't see any sign of the Mitchell / Lane marriage you mention.

http://www.burness.ca/p3651.htm#i36510

(why don't you click on above, from link posted earlier, you also have an index for names)

http://www.burness.ca/master_index.htm

Chris :)

If the details in that Burness family tree are correct, then you can ignore my records for a (wrong) James Mitchell Mitchell !

It says:

"James Mitchell Mitchell was born on 28 October 1892 in Gallaton, Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland. He was the son of Robert Mitchell and Margaret Elizabeth Frances Burness."

Then you can click on his parents' names (on the Burness tree) to find out about their ancestors.

James Mitchell

in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: James Mitchell
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relationship: Son
Father's name: Robert Mitchell
Mother's name: Margret Mitchell
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunnottar, Kincardineshire
Registration Number: 255
Registration district: Dunnottar
Civil Parish: Dunnottar
County: Kincardineshire
Address: Gallowton Farm House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 25
LINE: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_82
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Mitchell 64
Margret Mitchell 47
Robert V Mitchell 13
Edith Mitchell 10
James Mitchell 8
Agnes Stevenson 37 - visitor
Gertrud Hinder 22 - boarder

[and various farm labourers]
Maggie Paterson 18
William Chrestie 20
George Ruxton 17
John Napier 15
Peter Gray 21

Thank you to everyone for your kind input with information. I will endeavour again to look at suggested links and new links. As mentioned, we assume (and told) the Mitchell family roots could have been Stonehaven which I see is in Kincardineshire.

Thanks again and the links to Burness family, I have managed to find the Burness Mitchell connection to Stonehaven
Burness Genealogy and Family History
Robert Mitchell
Main Page
Master Index
Robert Burns Family History

Robert Mitchell1
#7136, b. 15 July 1834, d. 15 November 1924
Family Explorer
Robert Mitchell was born on 15 July 1834 in Benholm, Kincardineshire, Scotland.2 He was the son of James Mitchell and Mary McKay.2,1,3 He was baptized on 10 August 1834 in Benholm, Kincardineshire, Scotland.2 He married Margaret Elizabeth Frances Burness, daughter of Hugh Burness and Ann Lindsay, on 29 July 1886 in Cloak of Hilton, Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland.1,3 He died on 15 November 1924 in Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland, at age 90.3
Charts
Descendants of James Burness
Children of Robert Mitchell and Margaret Elizabeth Frances Burness
Robert Valentine Mitchell4,5,6,7 b. 6 Oct 1887
Marian Lindsay Mitchell4,8 b. 17 Nov 1888, d. 24 Jan 1890
Edith Margaret Mitchell4,5,6 b. 25 Feb 1891
James Mitchell Mitchell4,6,7 b. 28 Oct 1892

So I will now try to find James Mitchell Mitchell children

Well, I thought I had successfully researched my original quest, only to be told it goes beyond the Robert Burns/Burness link - it is thought my search should be concentrated on the Robert Burns grandfather! So back to the drawing board.

Well, it's still Scotlands People you need, though records are patchy as far back as RB's grandfathers' time and earlier.

I'll repeat the link I gave at the beginning of this thread, to a tree showing names of both his grandfathers and their siblings. No idea how accurate it is - you'd have to verify for yourself - but at least it's a starting point with clues to some names and dates:

https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000004539248427

Thank you ArgyllGran! I have guests staying at the moment so as soon as time permits I will start researching again. :-)