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AustinQ
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30 Apr 2016 19:33 |
Sarah's baptism:
First name(s) SARAH Last name SAUNDERS Birth year 1832 Baptism year 1832 Baptism day 23 Baptism month Sep Son or daughter Daughter First parent's first name(s) George Second parent first name(s) Charlotte Parish HORDLE County Hampshire
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 19:28 |
I couldn't find a baptism for Sarah........but now that you have posted the baptism of Caroline Emma, i now know that her mother's name was Charlotte!!
Fabulous!
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 19:20 |
Sorry Austin
Yes you did...
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AustinQ
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30 Apr 2016 19:12 |
I did include the 1901
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 19:10 |
George W Saunders in the 1901 England Census Name: George W Saunders Age:55 Estimated birth year:abt 1846 Relation to Head:Head Gender: Male Spouse: Margaret Saunders Birth Place: Milford, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Boldre Ecclesiastical parish: Boldre St Johns County/Island: Hampshire Country: England
Household Members:
George W Saunders 55 (Farm Bailiff) Margaret Saunders 56 Marion Saunders 16 Frances Saunders 13
Res:......Looks like Warborne Farm on the image.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 19:02 |
Thank you Chris......I will check out that site.
Oh my goodness AustinQ, i am blown away by the info you found.
I thought i would leave it alone for tonight, and come back to it all tomorrow......but i just couldn't stay away.
I found this earlier........
Sarah Saunders in the UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912 Name: Sarah Saunders Gender: Female Admission Date: 27 Apr 1871 Institution: Hants Intitution Place: Hampshire, England Death Date: 27 Dec 1917 Death Place: Hampshire, England
So the sister was Caroline Emma Saunders!
George William Saunders was indeed her step brother (half brother actually)......he married Margaret Puddle in 1871 Lymington, Hampshire.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Apr 2016 18:43 |
(seems to come up as below, that 1853)
Chris :)
Marriage 1853 TIBBEL George SAUNDERS Ellen St Thomas, Ryde
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.php
(more relating, Tibbel on above)
Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ SAUNDERS Ellin I Wight 2b 648 TIBBEL George I. Wight 2b 648
04 October 1876 - Hampshire Advertiser - Southampton, Hampshire
Death On the 22nd ult., at Ryde, Isle of Wight, George Tibbel, aged 47.
Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------- Tibbel Ellen 76 I. Wight 2b 443
Death 1904 TIBBEL Ellen 76 years 1827 - 1828 Newport
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(above has some childrens Baptisms Boldre, for George W Saunders and Margaret)
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ArgyllGran
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30 Apr 2016 18:25 |
Another very sad story.
So neither Sarah nor Emma married, and neither life ended well - assuming SS is the right Sarah.
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AustinQ
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30 Apr 2016 18:23 |
Her sister, Emma C was Caroline Emma:
Baptism: First name(s) CAROLINE EMMA Last name SAUNDERS Birth year 1834 Baptism year 1834 Baptism day 20 Baptism month Apr Son or daughter Daughter First parent's first name(s) George Second parent first name(s) Charlotte Parish HORDLE County Hampshire Record set Hampshire baptisms --------------------------------------------------
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Harwood Cottage, Milford, Lymington, Hampshire, England
James Bagshel Male 60 1781 Hampshire, England Susanna Bagshel Female 69 1772 Hampshire, England Richd Bagshel Male 30 1811 Hampshire, England Charles Bagshel Male 4 1837 Hampshire, England Caroline Saunders Female 6 1835 Hampshire, England
Surname of family is mistranscribed and should be Bagshot ------------------------------------------------------------
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Ashley Hill, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Bartlett Head Widow Female 48 1853 Milk Business High Ham, Somerset, England Rosalind Bartlett Daughter Single Female 20 1881 - High Ham, Somerset, England Howard Bartlett Son Single Male 18 1883 Pupil Teacher Bristol, Gloucestershire, Angelina White Mother Widow Female 71 1830 - Stoke St Gregory, Somerset, Caroline Saunders Boarder Single Female 67 1834 Dress Maker BOLDRE Hampshire, ---------------------------------------------------
Death: First name(s) CAROLINE EMMA Last name SAUNDERS Gender Female Birth year 1834 Age 67 Death quarter 2 Death year 1901 District LYMINGTON County Hampshire Volume 2B Page 389 -------------------------------------------------
Hampshire Advertiser - Saturday 01 June 1901 BOLDRE At Boldre on Tuesday, Mr Beranrd Harfield, the County Coroner, held an inquiry touching the death of Emma Caroline Saunders who died suddenly at Barborne Farm, Boldre on the 26th inst. George Saunders a farm bailiff of Boldre stated that the deceased was his step-sister. She lived at Bristol and had gone to Boldre on account of her ill health. When she arrived at the farm she was very much exhausted. On Sunday morning she was very ill and Dr Chinnery was sent for. The woman, however, died before his arrival. She had refused to have a doctor previous to Sunday morning. She had been sent witness, as at Bristol she had not had the necessities of life.- Dr Chinnery certified the cause of death to be syncope, due to cardiac failure, He stated that the deceased had not been well nourished and was suffering from curvature of the spine- A verdict in accordance with the medical testimony was returned by the jury. ---------------------------------------------------
The half/ step brother:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Warborne Farm, Portmore, Boldre, Lymington, Hampshire, England
George W Saunders Head Married Male 55 1846 Farm Bailiff Milford, Hampshire, Margaret Saunders Wife Married Female 56 1845 - South Stoneham, Hampshire, Marion Saunders Daughter Single Female 16 1885 School Teacher Boldre, Hampshire, Frances Saunders Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Boldre, Hampshire,
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ArgyllGran
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30 Apr 2016 18:09 |
Please let us know the outcome!
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 17:18 |
Very true ArgyllGran.
After all these years of searching, i feel both sad and elated that I may have finally found out what happened to her.
Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to post on here.
Very much appreciated.
I will check back on all the info tomorrow to be sure I am on the right track.
I will then order a copy of the death cert.
Thank you........Prickles. <3
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ArgyllGran
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30 Apr 2016 17:04 |
So sad. I wonder what was actually wrong with her - probably something easily controlled with medication nowadays.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 17:01 |
OMG.....
If that is her.......I am sooo pleased I found her, but how very sad is that!
Anyone got any Gin???
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 16:53 |
???
Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%) Saunders Sarah 84 Fareham 2b 718
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30 Apr 2016 16:51 |
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S S in the 1901 England Census Name: S S Age: 68 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation to Head: Pauper Patient (Pauper) Gender: Female Birth Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Fareham Ecclesiastical parish: Fareham St Peter and St Paul Town: Fareham County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Fareham Sub-registration district: Fareham ED, institution, or vessel: County Lunatic Asylum
S S 68 (Domestic Servant) Single......Lunatic
S S A in the 1911 England Census........(S S on the image)
Name:S S Age in 1911: 78 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation to Head: Patient Gender:Female Birth Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Fareham County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Hants County Lunatic Asylum, Fareham Marital Status: Single Occupation: Formerly Domestic Servant Registration district: Fareham
S S A 78 ........Lunatic at 38 years
Edit: Lunatic at 38 yrs.......that would mean in 1873 which would fit in with her year of birth in 1833. Which is why no death or marriage can be found for her between 1871 and 1881?
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ArgyllGran
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30 Apr 2016 16:49 |
Could well be her, PH
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S S A (NO, the initials are S.S.) in the 1911 England Census Name: S S [S S A] (This "correction" doesn't make sense. The patient's initials are SS as listed.) Age in 1911: 78 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation to Head: Patient Gender: Female Birth Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Fareham County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Hants County Lunatic Asylum, Fareham Marital Status: Single Occupation: Formerly Domestic Servant
Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%) Saunders Sarah 84 Fareham 2b 718
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 16:38 |
On the 1861 census that ArgyllGran posted......Sarah's occupation is "Waitress"
Oh dear......
I wonder
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S . S in the 1881 England Census Name: S . S Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relationship to Head: Patient Gender: Female Where born: Hordle, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Fareham County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:"Hants County Lunatic Asylum" Knowle Fareham Occupation: Domestic Servant Registration district: Fareham
Household Members:
S. S 48 (Unmarried) Lunatic
S S in the 1891 England Census Name: S S Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation: Patient Gender: Female Where born: Hordle; Lymington, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Fareham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Fareham ED, institution, or vessel: Hants County Lunatic Asylum
S S 58 (Single) Ret Domestic Servant (Lunatic)
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 16:28 |
Just the mention of Dizzi brings a tear to my eye.
:-( <3
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Apr 2016 16:23 |
(lol, wont say that your going to be 24 at the end of May also!, thanks to Dizzi, sadly no longer with us, another I met along the way!)
Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2016 16:18 |
Oh well done Chris...........yes that the one I posted back in 2011.
:-)
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