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it is all fascinating, and sad. I hate trawling through soldiers records, all who died so young :-( I have even found my grandfathers ..
But thank you everyone, once more, for all of your stirling efforts,
much appreciated, as always. :-D

? Peter's Father Peter. Leigh RD covers Tyldesley where 1891 says he's born

Births Mar 1854 (>99%)
Yates Peter Leigh

Peter's parents marriage ?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Gregory Sarah Leigh 8c 258
Mather Martha Leigh 8c 258 <<<<<<<<
ORMEROD William Leigh 8c 258
Yates Peter Leigh 8c 258 <<<<<<<

note MATHER rather than Mathew - which is correct?
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looks like it should be MATHER - Martha's parents

Bolton covers Westhoughton where the 1891 census shows they were born

Abbot Betty Bolton 8c 273 <<<<<<<<<<
Mather Edward Bolton 8c 273 <<<<<<<<<<
McDonald Ann Bolton 8c 273
Morris Robert Bolton 8c 273

Oh well - back to the drawing board :-0

Its just as well greyghost has found the correct birth reg, so the census are still likely to be correct.

Actually, the Wharfedale death is the only one for a P Yates old enough to be a soldier who died 2Q 1921.

Where the CWGs have been 'claimed', all the families have addresses close to the area.

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Yates Peter Leigh 8c 292

Leigh Lancashire covers Atherton.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bag Lane, Atherton, Leigh, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Mathew Head Married Male 61 1830 Coal Labourer Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Betty Mathew Wife Married Female 58 1833 - Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Peter Yates Son In Law Married Male 37 1854 Coal Miner Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
Martha Yates Wife Married Female 31 1860 Cotton Frame Tenter Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Alice A Yates Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Scholar Atherton, Lancashire, England
Edward Yates Son Single Male 8 1883 Scholar Atherton, Lancashire, England
Moses Yates Son Single Male 6 1885 Scholar Atherton, Lancashire, England
Helen Yates Daughter Single Female 3 1888 - Atherton, Lancashire, England
Peter Yates Son Single Male 1 1890 - Atherton, Lancashire, England

oh, I was just going to look for any other info, but you have beaten me to it!!!! Lesa (work coll) will be so pleased. Her family have tended Peter's grave for many years as no one else visited ; she was just wondering about him, and knowing I am interested in genealogy asked me to find out anything. Ironically, although his grave says P Yates, she has always referred to him as Peter, just to give him a name!!!! But thank you all once ore. E <3

CWGC says the burial was in Atherton Cemetery.

The baptism does match with the parents on the 1901

Peter Yates
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Peter Yates
Birth Place: Atherton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Atherton
Search Photos: Search for 'Atherton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Atherton St John the Baptist
Town: Atherton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3596
Folio: 112
Page Number: 33
Household schedule number: 171

Peter Yates 47 < father, widower
Alice Ann Yates 20
Edward Yates 18
Moses Yates 16
Ellen Yates 13
Peter Yates 11
Betty Mather 69
Martha Yates 9

DetEcTive mentions Atherton - it's late for me have I missed something?
EDIT - I see the Grave picture
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England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription

First name(s) Peter
Last name Yates
Gender Male
Birth year 1889
Birth place -
Baptism year 1889
Baptism date 01 Dec 1889
Residence Atherton, Lancashire, England
Place Atherton
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Peter
Father's last name Yates
Mother's first name(s) Martha
Mother's last name -

Considering the Atherton connection

???

Peter Yates
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Atherton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Atherton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 289a North Rd Atherton Lancs
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Charge Hand Boltworks
Registration district: Leigh
Registration District Number: 460
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 23240

Edward Yates 28
Moses Yates 26
Peter Yates 21
Martha Yates 19

All the Yates are single siblings

Grave can be seen at : https://billiongraves.com/grave/P-Yates/4487808

Probably death reg

Deaths Jun 1921 (>99%)
Yates Peter 32 Wharfedale 9a 167

Wharfedale covers Atherton
- EDIT - wrong Atherton BUT its the only death reg 1Q - 4Q 1921 for a male P Yates of the correct age to qualify for a CWG

So born c1889

wow! Thank you all so very much!!!! You are amazing! <3

Peter Yates
in the UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920

Name: Peter Yates
Discharge Unit: Royal Lancaster Regiment
Regiment: King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment
Regimental Number: 17471
Rank: Pte.
Badge Number: 40637
Piece: 3071
List Number: H 0401-0800
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329

Available on Ancestry - transcript as above but with image of original listings paperwork

This from Findmypast

Silver War Badge Roll Transcription

First name(s) Peter
Last name Yates
Service number 17471
Rank Private
Badge number 40637
Enlistment date 30-Jan-1915
Discharge date 29-Oct-1915
Regiment/unit Royal Lancaster Regiment
Cause of discharge Para 392 King's Regulation (xvi) Wounds
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 29-Jan-1917

http://www.kingsownmuseum.plus.com/

Transcription only

Silver War Badge Roll Transcription

First name(s) Peter
Last name Yates
Service number 17471
Rank Private
Badge number 40637
Enlistment date 30-Jan-1915
Discharge date 29-Oct-1915
Regiment/unit Royal Lancaster Regiment
Cause of discharge Para 392 King's Regulation (xvi) Wounds
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 29-Jan-1917
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

Available on Find My Past

Been asked to post this by work colleague who is going to 'take over' looking after an untended military grave in Lancashire. It says The Kings Own, with the Lion emblazoned, then 17471 PRIVATE P YATES, Royal Lancaster Regiment
9th May 1921; I have done a quick search but cannot find P Yates; i am presuming P was male of course. Will I have to apply to the RLR regimental museum do you think?
:-S