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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Apr 2016 18:50

In case you don't have this ........

Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915

Name: Richard Crook
Birth Date: 3 Mar
Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1881
Parish: Miles Platting, St Luke
Parish as it Appears: St Luke Miles Platting
Father's name: Cornelins Crook
Mother's name: Jane Crook
Reference Number: M366/1/1/2
Item Number: 3
Archive Roll: 862

from image:-

Born March 3 1881
Address:- 105 Dyson St
Father occupation:- Horse Slaughterer

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

cane

cane Report 1 Apr 2016 16:59

He is the nephew to Frederick crook,probs as his parents ( Cornelius crook and sarah j crook ( nee carvell) are at loggerheads with each other. ..I am looking for anything else for him after this 1891..i have info for his brother Cornelius. thanks
Name:
Richard Crook

Age:
10

Estimated birth year:
abt 1881

Relation:
Nephew

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Miles Platting, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:
Oldham

Ecclesiastical parish:
Hollinwood

County/Island:
Lancashire

Country:
England


Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:



View image


Registration district:
Oldham

Sub registration district:
Oldham Below Town

ED, institution, or vessel:
52

Neighbors:
View others on page

Piece:
3307

Folio:
60

Page Number:
28

Household Members:


Name

Age


Robert Tomkins 20
Alice Tomkins 23
Fredk Tomkins 2
Sarah A Tomkins 52
Joseph Tomkins 14
Fredk Crook 35
Harriet Emily Crook 25
Richard Crook 10
Cornelius Crook 7

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 1 Apr 2016 12:08

The William croock which I found.I had thought it was a one and only and so it must be him (even with father as a weaver)..But No..There is actually loads of them not just William.. :-S

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 1 Apr 2016 11:59

Thank you Mary ..For the 1866 link re: Cornelius crook, he's a little bugga that one.Gins has already P Md me this image xx

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 1 Apr 2016 11:53

Thank you everyone xx So very sorry for my absence.,my daughter was poorly, and have some how caught it from her...All of the above info is what I have and I will have a better look through it all when I feel a bit better..Much gratitude too you all xxx
Many thanks for the links.No I hadn't been aware of the Blacksmith one

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

Mary

Mary Report 1 Apr 2016 10:50

Hannah Cutler born @ 1823 married Thomas Kay a minor 20/8/1843 Manchester,he was a Striker dad George Kay a Gardner.
Hannah Cutler full age dad James Cutler.Archive Roll 709.

1851Crumpsall D2b >29
Jas Cutlen (Cutler) born 1803 Lancashire
Mary nee Goodwin 1804 Ireland
Mary Goodwin mum in law 1781 Ireland
Hannah Kay 1825 Wigan Lancs a weaver married.
Mary kay 1845 Blackley Lancs
Jno Kay 3 months

1861 Salford Regent Road D 29 > 34
Hannah Kay born Wigan a weaver I think it says married.
Mary Kay 16
William 14(can't find in1851)
John 10
George 2
Mary Goodwin 1778 Ireland Grandma(also on 1851 census)

Mary kay born 1844 daughter of Thomas a smith married William Crook born 1844 to William a blacksmith and Hannah nee Pinnington.
Married 8/8/1864 in Manchester archive roll 732.

So did William Crook 1844 marry his step sister and the Hannah with William on 1861 census was Hannah nee Pinnington.

Maryb.

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 23:21

but I've been assuming that the Hannah on the 1861 is Hannah nee Pinnington, b.ca 1820.

The Hannah Crook on the 1871 is b.ca 1823 ........... and that is the one that "seems" to be Hannah Kay nee Cutler.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Mar 2016 23:18

The only possible one I can find is

Deaths Mar 1859 (>99%)
CROOK Hannah Salford 8d 7

Salford not on lancsbmd so age unknown

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 22:50

Mary ...............


I didn't mean to belittle what you do.

I was feeling very frustrated that I couldn't find the records that you'd posted so that I could post the link.

I'm sorry if I upset you


sylvia xx

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 22:27

Lancashireann .........

have you got anywhere looking for the death of Hannah Crook (nee Pinnington) between the 1861 Census and when William appears to have married hannah Kay (nee Cutler)?


I just cannot see any death in those 2 years for a Hannah Crook within 10 years of her age!


Did William just leave her and marry bigamously?




Mind you ...... we're not getting much further, either, in solving cane's problem re William's father!!

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 22:23

Cane ...............


do you know about this site??

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/index.htm


It might be worth entering William into the data base ....... I got a contact from a previously unknown cousin there after I'd entered OH's gt grandfather.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Mar 2016 22:08


Thanks Sylvia

Looking at the wrong year for Cornelius as I used the 1861 age of 10 which is why I could not find him.

Just found Frances who appears to have died in 1858.

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 22:06

Cornelius!

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852

CROOK Cornelius London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PENNINGTON LRD/37/97

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 22:05

??????????/

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851

CROOK Frances London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PININGTON LRD/33/97

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 22:02

????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1848

CROOK Sarah H London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PENNINGTON LRD/25/91

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Mar 2016 21:52

I missed Richard from that list

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CROOK Richard Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library PENNINGTON

I am puzzled that I have not found a birth reg for Cornelius who would have been born between Frederick & Jesse (Jessie?)

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2016 17:21

lancashireann .............

Thanks ..... I forgot about checking lancsbmd to see if mmn was shown.

I did check on there for a death of a Hannah of a suitable age, as well as on freebmd, and on ancestry.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Mar 2016 16:16

Crook - Pinnington children

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1844
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CROOK William Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON ANC/22/82

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1845
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CROOK James Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON ANC/27/81

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CROOK Jesse London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON LRD/29/9

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CROOK Frederick London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON LRD/42/46

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CROOK John Henry London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON LRD/47/72

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

Mary

Mary Report 31 Mar 2016 12:29

http://mediasvc.ancestry.co.uk/v2/thumbnail/namespaces/8633/media/41418_1831109388_2997-00254.jpg?Client=SearchUI&MaxSide=175&suppressNotFound=true

This is the link to Cornelius Crook in 1866 charged with stealing a watch and stating Hannah is his stepmother!

Maryb.

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 31 Mar 2016 10:10

You added whilst I was typing - don't think you can newspaper articles to the thread as they are the wrong format.
You could send it to Cane as an attachement

Researching:
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