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Thank you for all of your help ladies..Very much appreciated.Thank you :-)

Richard might have returned again

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Richard Crook
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 31
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 22 Jan 1915
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Megantic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Megantic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 127981

from image:-

Reservist

He's in a long list of men, all called Reservists


This might or might not be him ...... there are other Richard Crooks, who might not use a middle name

from the Ellis Island site

Passenger Manifest

First Name : Richard
Last Name : Crook
Nationality : Great Britain, British
Last Place of Residence : USA, PA
Date of Arrival : July 17th, 1914
Age at Arrival : 32y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Aquitania
Port of Departure : Liverpool
Manifest Line Number : 0026


from the Manifest .....

going to Keesport (??sp), PA, fare paid by self

Home address:- Smithfield Street, Keesport


The Ellis Island site is free, but you have to set up an account ........

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/

from the Ellis Island site ..........

Passenger Record

First Name : Richard
Last Name : Crook
Nationality : England, English
Last Place of Residence : Oldham, England
Date of Arrival : February 19th, 1909
Age at Arrival : 23y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Mauretania
Port of Departure : Liverpool
Manifest Line Number : 0004


The passenger manifest record says that their passage was paid by Mother-in-Law, 305 Unity Street, Greensburg, PA

They had £12

They weren't in the UK for the 1911!

They only came back in July 1914

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Martha Crook
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 30
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 10 Apr 1914
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Lusitania
Search Ship Database: Search for the Lusitania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Leyland Line
Official Number: 110611

from image:-
Richard, age 31, Labourer

Last country of permanent residence;- USA
Intended Country of Permanent Resudence:- Other Foreign Country (ie not UK or Commonwealth


so it looks as though they were just visiting

no William or other child on the passenger lsit, so he must have died, if he was theirs

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Martha Ann Crook
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 13 Feb 1909
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Mauretania
Search Ship Database: Search for the Mauretania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 124093
Master: J Pritchard



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Martha A Crook
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1884
Departure Date: 11 Jul 1914
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Aquitania
Search Ship Database: Search for the Aquitania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 135583
Master: W T Turner

this is why you can't find them

Ship Mauretania
Martha Ann Crook 25 born say Holtinwood should be Hollinwood @ 1844 mum Mary Mason 44,Hawksley Street
Richard Crook 23 arrived in United states 19/2/1909 they are on 1910 census there,he was a coal miner she was a house wife.

So they must have come again and returned to USA 1914 on the Aqiutania

They arrived in England on the Lusitania 10/4/1914

Maryb.

you had it ALL cane!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1358871

Thanks mary, I was trying to find this info, To show Sylvia,but you beat me to it ..Thanks x

thanks Mary


but that means they should be on the 1911 Census

Info posted on previous thread by Greyghost 23rd March 2016
Richard and Martha crook went to New York 10/7/1914 to stay with James Mason brother to Martha.
Martha's dad James Mason at 44,Odey Street Hollinwood Lancashire.
1901/1911 44,Hawksley Street Hollinwood
James Mason 1855 Stone Stafforshire
Son James 1887
Martha Ann 1882.On 1891/1901 with dad.

Maryb.

There are several Richard Crooks who received Medal and Service Awards in WW1, and some with the RFA, but I can't definitively identify any one of them as "yours".

Glad I could help ........


but I can't see them in 1911, nor on war service records for WW1

??????????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908

CROOK William Failsworth Archives+, Manchester Central Library MASON FAI/54/20


the only one I can see between 1905 and 1930

oh my :-) wow thank you SylviainCanada this is amazing info, ime going to get it copied and pasted right away Thanks x

I can't find them in 1911, nor on a passenger list

As an elimination ......


This Is NOT your Richard with wife Martha Ann

1911 Census

Name: Richard Crook
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Milnrow, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Milnrow
Search Photos: Search for 'Milnrow' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 129 Rochdale Road Firgrove
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district: Rochdale
Registration District Number: 470
Sub-registration district: Milnrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 24597

Richard Crook 34
Martha Ann Crook 32
Mary Crook 4

From image:- Married 9 years


This couple are the following .........

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Brierley Martha Ann Rochdale 8e 122
CROOK Richard Rochdale 8e 122

from lancsbmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CROOK Richard MASON Martha Ann Prestwich Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library PRE_RM/54/104

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s) RICHARD
Last name CROOK
Birth year 1881
Birth parish ST LUKES
Birth town MANCHESTER
Birth county LANCASHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 183
Rank -
Regiment Royal Artillery
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1899
Attestation Day 29
Attestation Month 6
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months -
Attestation Corps Royal Artillery
Attestation service number 183
Discharge Corps Royal Artillery
Series WO97 chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 4612
Box Record Number 131
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from United Kingdom

Joined 29 June 1899
Previous occupation:- Collier
5' 4½" tall
139 lbs
Hair Brown
Eyes Hazel
Religion:- Wesleyan

Fit for duty in R.A. (Royal Horse & Royal Field Artillery)

Extended service to 8 years, with Colors 23 Mar 1904

Absent 30 June 1909

Claimed benefit of the Kings Pardon and was given a Protecting Certificate (A.F.B120) 4 August 1910

In India 8 Dec 1902 to 8 Mar 1906

N.O.K:- Father Cornelius Crook, address not known
Mother Jane Crook, 109 Wickertree Lane, Failsworth, Lancashire

Then:-
Wife Martha Ann Mason,
Married Register Office, Prestwich, Lancashire, 27 Oct 1906
Witnesses:- F (or T) Mason and M.E.Mason
Note:- Married while a Reservist


and that is the end of the record

???????????? St Luke is the parish in Miles Platting where he was baptised???

1901 Census

Name: Richard Crook
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Luke, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Cosham
Search Photos: Search for 'Cosham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Widley St Mary Magdalene and Wymering St Peter and St Paul
Town: Cosham and Hilsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Fareham
Sub-registration district: Fareham
ED, institution, or vessel: Hilsea Barracks

Piece: 1015
Folio: 112
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 1

Richard Crook 19 Driver, R.F.A


R.F.A. = Royal Field Artillery (it's spelled in full on p.2