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Ellen

Ellen Report 30 Mar 2016 10:13

I have a Elizabeth Ann Snowling who died13/10/1852 (aged 73 years ) at Ipswich Suffolk, buried 19/10/1852 at St Helens she was a Widow
I would like to obtain her Will how do I go about purchasing it?
I have looked on Ancestry Probate Calendar but nothing there.
I have seen the Suffolk Benefit Index that's states her niece Ethelinda Harris as Beneficiary ( my husbands relative)
I have found Elizabeth Ann on the 1851 Census (aged 72 ) living at Victoria Street, St Clement on her own means, also living there is a servant Sarah Davey aged 20 years.
I think she married a William Snowling a Brewer & Brandy Merchant.I do not know when he died.
I do not know Elizabeth Ann's maiden name.
If anyone can help with any of the above it would be much appreciated as I have had no luck searching myself
Thank You

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 10:31

For helpers' reference:

Elizabeth Snowling
in the 1851 England Census
Age: 72
Estimated birth year: abt 1779
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ipswich St Clement
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 4n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 1800
Folio: 287
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Snowling 72
Sarah Davey 20


In 1841 there's this Elizabeth, but a she's listed as a servant, it doesn't seem very likely that just ten years later she would be a "proprietor of stores" - unless perhaps she had both married and been widowed in that time, inheriting her husband's property.:

Elizabeth Snowling
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Snowling
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1775
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Fressingfield
Hundred: Hoxne
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Stradbroke
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1025
Book: 9
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James King 20
Mary Buskard 69
Elizabeth Snowling 66
Maria Meen 16

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 10:34

This is the only Suffolk marriage showing online which would fit with her YOB, but of course it's not necessarily hers - I'm sure you've already found it:


Elizabeth Burrows
mentioned in the record of William Snowling and Elizabeth Burrows
Name William Snowling
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Burrows
Event Date 12 Aug 1805
Event Place Dennington, Suffolk, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 10:36

Presumably the death of the William Snowling who married in 1805:


William Snowling
England Deaths and Burials
Name William Snowling
Gender Male
Burial Date 01 Jul 1833
Burial Place Dennington, Suffolk, England
Age 49
Birth Date 1784
Marital Status Married

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 10:36

And a child of that couple:


William
England Deaths and Burials
Name William
Gender Male
Burial Date 18 Feb 1808
Burial Place Dennington, Suffolk, England
Age 2
Birth Date 1806
Father's Name William Snowling
Mother's Name Elizabeth Burrows

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Mar 2016 10:40

She was the executor and beneficiary of Williams will

Elizabeth Ann
First name(s) ELIZABETH ANN
Last name SNOWLING
Residence Ipswich
Relationship wife & executor
Testator SNOWLING William
Will year 1845
Probate year 1848
Court Ipswich
County Suffolk
Suffolk record office reference IC/AA2/125
Record set Suffolk Beneficiary Index 1847-1857
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
Transcriptions Copyright © Suffolk Family History Society

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Mar 2016 10:42

Just because it came up so we can ref

1847-1857 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) ELIZABETH ANN
Last name SNOWLING
Title -
Suffix -
Birth year -
Residence Ipswich
Place IPSWICH
Country England
Occupation Widow
Death year 1851
Death day 13
Death month Oct
Will year 1852
Will day 14
Will month Sep
Notes -
Testator SNOWLING Elizabeth Ann
Suffolk Record Office original wills IC/AA1/
Suffolk Record Office film reel number J421/103
Suffolk Record Office register copies IC/AA2/126
Record set Suffolk Testator Index 1847-1857
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Wills & probate
Collections from Great Britain
copyright Suffolk Family History Society

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Mar 2016 10:43

ELIZABETH ANN
Last name SNOWLING
Birth year 1779
Death year 1852
Age 73
Burial year 1852
Burial day 19
Burial month 10
Place IPSWICH
Church description ST HELEN
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Suffolk
Country England
Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
Suffolk Family History Society

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 10:43

So William was not the one who married Elizabeth Burrows.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Mar 2016 10:45

This may help

documents

Where are the originals held?

The original wills are held at the Ipswich Branch of Suffolk Record Office. To obtain copies of an original will you need to contact the Ipswich Branch of Suffolk Record Office by letter, fax or e-mail, giving full details (including source ie BRS and which court etc) and references. The Ipswich Branch of Suffolk Record Office will then send you a quote of the full costs.

What information from the document do I need to locate the original?

Testator's name
Year of will or admon
Place
Register
Folio

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2016 10:46

??
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name SNOWLING
Birth year 1771
Death year 1848
Age 77
Burial year 1848
Burial day 21
Burial month 4
Place IPSWICH
Church description ST HELEN
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Suffolk
Country England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 10:47

This is William's death:

Deaths Jun 1848 (>99%)
Snowling William Ipswich 12 257

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2016 11:01

Could this be Willian and Elizabeth in 1841. He is described of Independent Means.
Neither were born in County.
As ages were supposedly rounded down to the nearest 5 in 1841 then William could be 69, making him born c1771/2

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Goose Green, St Giles Camberwell, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Bailey Female 80 1761 -
Elizabeth Stevens Female 35 1806 -
Mary Mathews Female 30 1811 -
William Snowling Male 65 1776 -
Elizabeth Ann Snowling Female 60 1781 -

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Mar 2016 11:18

I think this may be the 1841 for them.




1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Goose Green, St Giles Camberwell, Surrey, England




Household Members


Elizabeth Bailey Female 80 1761 -
?Transcription

Elizabeth Stevens Female 35 1806 -
?Transcription

Mary Mathews Female 30 1811 -
?Transcription

William Snowling Male 65 1776 -
?Independant

Elizabeth Ann Snowling Female 60 1781 -


SNAP greyghost, I was so busy looking them up I didn't see you've gone down the same line as me
:-)

Ellen

Ellen Report 30 Mar 2016 13:03

Thank you all for your input I found the 1841 Census (which looks right to me ) after much searching under the name of Showley I have reported the mistake.
I wasn't to sure that was William's death in 1848.
I will email Suffolk Record Office Ipswich for information on obtaining William's Will.
I came across the marriage to Elizabeth Burrows but as it did not say Elizabeth Ann I thought it wasn't my William.
I have been trying to find the connection between Ethelinda Harris (nee Stearn) & Elizabeth Ann Snowling as it said on her Will Ethelinda was her neice,I think if I can find Elizabeth's maiden name it might connect??
Thanks again everyone I have always had great help from this site Regards Ellen

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Mar 2016 13:27

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/dcab160f-7700-41cf-8837-315b20216fe1

(Dennington Parish Records. Removal Order: William Snowling, Elizabeth his wife and William their son to Metfield 1 Feb. 1796)

(perhaps relating somewhere?. held also at Suffolk R O, Ipswich)

Chris :)

DIED. SUFFOLK
29 April 1848 - Norfolk Chronicle - Norwich, Norfolk, England

Aged 77. William Snowling, gent., St. Clement's, Ipswich

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2016 13:41

??
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Boro Road, St Clement, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Ethelinda Harris Female 23 1818 Suffolk, England
Mary Fryatt Female 20 1821

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2016 13:51

An Ancestry tree has Ethelinda marrying Charles Willingale 1851 London - haven't found this.
Children Elizabeth Ethelinda Willingale 1852 Charles Willingale Harris 1858, Alfred Walter Willingale 1859

Mother Unknown. Father Harris 1798 - ?

Subsequent census show her born Elmswell, Suffolk

Family search shows a baptism 1858 Stepney of a Charles Willingale Harris - only mother's name Ethelinda Harris

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2016 13:54

Ancestry suggests this is Ethelinda in 1851:

Etheelinda Willingale
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Etheelinda Willingale
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Willingale
Gender: Female
Where born: Elmswell, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
View image
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 1553
Folio: 382
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Willingale 38
Etheelinda Willingale 33
Charles Willingale 16
Samuel Willingale 15
Eliza Alexander 29
Edward Alexander 7
Eliza Alexander 2


If so, Ethelinda would have to be a second wife.

I can't see any such marriage, on FreeBmd at least.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2016 14:00

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wentworth Road, Mile End Old Town, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Willingale Head - Male 56 1815 - Essex, England
Ethelinda Willingale Wife - Female 52 1819 - Suffolk, England
Charles Willingale Son - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex, England
Alfred Willingale Son - Male 12 1859 - Middlesex, England