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Chris :)

Littleport. Parish Records cd. (St. George, St. Matthew. St. John Little Ouse)

St. George
1911 July 8 Metcalfe William Henry 29 bac bricklayer otp son of (blank) Royal Horse Artillery
Thompson Leah Hannah 26 sp otp dau of Henry lab wits Robert Malkin Ivy Thompson


St. Matthew
1909 Nov 27 Malkin Robert 32 bac lab otp son of John lab
Thompson Ellen (x) wid otp dau of George Lakey lab (decd) wits James Malkin Sarah Scotting

Hello and thank you all for all your input, i am very grateful
I agree with Mary B i dont feel that my Phyllis Leroy went to the USA but she did it seems work for the government in some capacity, that information has come from her sister Daisy but she is no longer with us for me to ask for any more information, Phyllis seems to of gone to work? in Belgium with her husband Jean Leroy, that bit seems to be true, i dont know what happened to their marriage? but on the wedding cert i have i her marriage to my Grandfather William Hollis it states that her former marriage to Jean LeRoy was dissolved, also states on the same cert that her occupation was Hairdresser, which i find hard to believe as i said before i knew her for about 40 years, and she didnt cut peoples hair or even mentioned any thing about it, i do wonder if in those days you could say any thing you wanted to on certificates ???? I am very interested on the information about a Jean Leroy and the merchant navy, would like to find out a bit more, the dates do fit as Jean was about 21 years older than Phyllis going by their marriage cert
I do not have the names of Malkin & Childerleys either in my tree or the trees i have access to, but i will check these names out Thank you, Thank you also for the Belgium BMD i will check this out also, also my apologies for getting Jean Leroys profession mixed up with his Father, he was indeed a Stockbroker and his father Louise LeRoy an Architect, i must of been tired, Thank you again everybody and if there is any more thoughts, please let me know, thank you x

Just to ask if Susan wants the Littleport Marriage details of William Henry and Leah?, can help if so.

Chris :)

Related? But gives wife as Gabrielle Bertrand:

http://gw.geneanet.org/verseau?lang=fr&p=jean+hubert+louis+desire&n=leroy&cgl=on&impr=1

Was Phyllis listed as widow on her second marriage?

Jean H L D le Roy at time of marriage was a Stockbroker,it was his father who was a Architect.

Maryb

I had been thinking that Jean Leroy would have been too old to have been the one in the Merchant Navy, who died in 1945 - but having re-done my dodgy arithmetic, I see he would only have been 57 - so not impossible.

Thankyou AustinQ

I'am even more sure now it isn't Phylliss Metcalfe going to USA.

Phyllis Lorimer Leroy (Lorimer her maiden name)who married Gaylord Clarke Leroy,if you google her name and go to third entry on page it gives info on her sad death.

It is also written on Ancestry about her death.
It states she was a former State Department Foreign Affairs Specialist and a Historical researcher.

6/2/1953 she got her passport and in May 1953 she was in South Africa on a scholarship from the social science research council of New York (Student) her address was C/O 2930,Chesapeake St Washington DC.Please note this is the address she gives on travel record departing Southampton 7th Oct arriving USA 14th Oct 1946.

Phyllis Le Roy of 2930 Chesapeake Street Passport No 12207 left Maine bound for Southampton on Feb 28th 1953 on Ship America and planned stay was 1month arrived in Southampton March 7th 1953 c/o US Embassy, she must have flown on to South Africa from here ?

Maryb.

Mary b wrote this on page one- it hasn't been referred to in your reply but I think it may be worth exploring more to ensure you have the correct records for 'your' Phyllis:

"I think maybe the one going to USA is not your Phyllis.

There was another Phyllis le Roy born Maine USA 1909 wife of Gaylord Clarke Le Roy 28/9/1910-6/5/1995 he was a professor and she was also in teaching.

Phyllis Le Roy born 29/12/1909 Bar Harbour Maine left Southampton 7/10/1946 on the ship Southampton and arrived New York 14/10/1946 at the side of her name it has D for divorced I think.
On one travel record it says in transit to Switzerland,Gaylord C Le Roy has travel record from Italy 23/8/1953 where he is with a Eva S le Roy born Switzerland

It was niggling at me as to why your Phyllis would be down as USA citizen and staying at 1,Grosvener Square which looks to be American Embassy in 1946,that is why I asked what she did as a job on second marriage cert.

I'am now wondering if your Phyllis didn't go to USA, but I maybe wrong.

Maryb."

If her son was born in Belgium, as you suggest, we probably won't be able to find a record of it online, I fear.

Some advice here on researching Belgian BMD''s;
http://tinyurl.com/hdqmbd7

Thank you all again....I have a bit more information given to me from a family member, the adopted daughter of Daisy Lillian Skew nee Metcalfe, Daisy was the younger sister of Phyllis and sister to Peter Berti Metcalfe, the story that was handed down was that both Phyllis and Daisy were in service together,
( i dont know the date ) in the Lymington/ Barton area, their parents were William Henry Metcalfe a builder and mother Leah Hannah Metcalfe nee Thompson she took in washing for people, Phyllis married Jean Leroy in 1930 in Lymington, Jean Leroy was 40 years old and Phyllis only 19 years old, ( she was not pregnant then ) before the marriage the story was that Phyllis worked in Barton for some one in the diplomatic service and they both ended up in Belgium ( we think that maybe Jean LeRoy was her employer?) in Belgium they both got involved with the Belgium resistance movement, Phyllis got caught and interrogated and tortured by the Germans..
Moving on the 1950s a letter came to Daisy, Phyllis sister from someone official from the home office or the Red Cross wanting to know the whereabouts of Phyllis, seems that Phyllis had a child a son while she was in Belgium and he was looking for her, and Phyllis told Daisy not to tell them where she was, in 1954 she married my Grandfather, and i believe Phyllis had not told him about her son, though she did tell my Mum that she had a son and had to leave him... When Phyllis married my Grandfather William Hollis she had stated on the certificate that she was a hairdresser, i had known and saw Phyllis regularly from my birth in 1956 up until she died in 1996 and never once had she told any one she was a hairdresser, in fact she never talked about her life only that she met my Grandfather during the war when she drove an Ambulance, though my Uncle told me that she couldn't drive, also looking at her jaunts backwards and forwards to and from America she could only have known my Grandfather William and married for one year of 1954.... Going back before the marriage to William Hollis, and sometime when Phyllis was in Belgium she had sent her sister Daisy a letter and some photos, Daisy had not heard from Phyllis for two years, the photos were of her and some friends with a little boy with his back to the camera on the beach somewhere, another photo was of a man also on the beach and on the back of the photo is written, this is Herman he is to be my future husband? think in the letter she had told her sister he was German? these photos were from the 1930s sometime, Phyllis could not of married Herman because her surname when she married my Grandfather on the certificate was LeRoy. but reading between the lines her child could of been Hermans? so i dont believe this child that Phyllis had was Jean LeRoys? i really dont know what happened to him, i cant find a death for him, but was interested to see the death for a Jean Leroy in the Merchant Navy, i will have to check this out, Jeans occupation at time of marriage was a Architect, thank you for this information :-) i have a couple of birth certs for a son for Phyllis both are wrong, i just wish that on the certs to order they would put mothers first name as well as their surname, would make looking for children and their mothers much easier.. Thank you all for taking the trouble for reading this, i do hope its understandable??? it would be truly lovely to finding Phyllis son and his family so we could share photos and information with them <3

There were so many Metcalfes and Childerleys in Coton that it would take months to investigate all their relationships to see if there was any link between Phyllis and Dorothy.

Leah, while working in Coton, would be bound to get to know Sidney, as it was a small place, but it's probably (?) just coincidence that they both married Metcalfes.

Not sure what info. Susan has on Malkin/Thompson, but always worth a check in 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page here, under 'Search') to see if any names are shared by other GR Members, that could perhaps shed some light...

Interesting!.

Chris :)

edits (can see Marriages Littleport, Thompson/Malkin 1906, Metcalfe/Thompson 1911 if you don't already have details)

I'm off to bed too, Chris! It's far to late to be hunched over the computer!

Leah Thompson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Leah Thompson
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ten Mile Bank, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Milford
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Hillyfield, Milford On Sea, Hampshire
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Cook Domestic
Registration district: Lymington
Registration District Number: 94
Sub-registration district: Milford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 5801
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Bruce 56
Emma Bruce 53
Hylda Bruce 25
Marjory Bruce 22
Leah Thompson 26
Mabel Cheater 18


Interesting side note:
In 1891 Leah's address is Hundred Foot Bank, Welney. By 1901 (and in 1911) her birthplace has become Ten Mile Bank.

(apologies there AG, just added 1891, should be switching off, got a bit hooked, lol, will leave you with it, and check in morning!)

Chris :)

(aah!, her Mother!)

1911 (Find My Past)
Robert Malkin Head Married Male General Labourer 34 1877 London Stepney
Ellen Malkin Wife Married Female - 50 1861 Norfolk Welney
Sophia Thompson Stepdaughter - Female School 10 1901 Norfolk Welney
Cyril Lakey Thompson Stepson - Male School 6 1905 Norfolk Welney
Victoria Street Littleport Ely, Littleport, Cambridgeshire
Census reference RG14 PN9238 RG78 PN495 RD184 SD4 ED3 SN88


Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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LAHEY Ellen Downham 4b 993
LAKEY Ellen Downham 4b 993
THOMPSON Harry Downham 4b 993

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
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MALKIN Robert Ely 3b 1251
THOMPSON Ellen Ely 3b 1251


Deaths Mar 1922 (>99%)
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Malkin Ellen 60 Peterbro' 3b 288


Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
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Thompson Cyril Lakey Downham 4b 315


Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)
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Fear Olive K Thompson Peterbro' 3b 579
Thompson Cyril L Fear Peterborough 3b 579


Deaths Mar 1960 (>99%)
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THOMPSON Cyril L 55 Hunts.N. 4b 401


1939 Register (Find My Past)

45 Milton Road , Old Fletton U.D., Huntingdonshire
Cyril L Thompson 28 May 1904 Male Fitter Brickworks Married
Olive K Thompson 15 Sep 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Edith E Smith 20 Apr 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Sorry, this record is officially closed.

Lether Hannah Thompson
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Lether Hannah Thompson
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Harry Thompson
Mother's name: Ellen Thompson
Gender: Female
Where born: Hilgay, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Welney
Ecclesiastical parish: Welney
Town: Welney
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Downham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1572
Folio: 164
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Thompson 31
Ellen Thompson 31
Minie Thompson Thompson 12
Sophia Thompson 10
Mable Ellen Thompson 7
Lether Hannah Thompson 6
George Robert Thompson 4
Hannah Ann Thompson 1



Legh Thompson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Legh Thompson
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Mile Bank, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Coton St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Coton St Peter
Town: Coton
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Shelford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1527
Folio: 154
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
George Jackson 51
Elizebeth Jackson 46
Carrie Jackson 23
Legh Thompson 16

Notes Leah Thompson, 1901 in Coton, Cambs, also there 1911 is Sidney Childerley, with Father Simon, at same Public House, The Plough, it's still in use. Sidney died there also. Just wondered if some coincidence, somewhere, although Littleport some distance from Coton!.


Cambridgeshire Banns Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Doris Mary
Last name Metcalfe
Banns year 1934
Banns date 19 Aug 1934
Spouse's first name(s) Sidney Charles
Spouse's last name Childerley
Place Cambridge, St Philip
Groom's marital condition bac
Groom's residence of Coton
Bride's marital condition sp
Bride's residence otp
County Cambridgeshire


Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
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Metcalfe William H Ely 3b 1299
Thompson Leah H Ely 3b 1299


Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Thompson Lether Hannah Downham 4b 370

(bit nearer to Littleport!)

1891 (Find My Past)
Harry Thompson Head Married Male 31 1860 Agricultural Labourer Welney, Norfolk, England
Ellen Thompson Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Minie Thompson Lattey Daughter Single Female 12 1879 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Sophia Thompson Daughter Single Female 10 1881 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Mable Ellen Thompson Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Hilgay, Norfolk, England
Letha Hannah Thompson Daughter - Female 6 1885 - Hilgay, Norfolk, England
George Robert Thompson Son - Male 4 1887 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Hannah Ann Thompson Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Hilgay, Norfolk, England
Street Hundred Feet Bank
Town Welney
County Norfolk
Registration district Downham
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1572
Folio 164
Page 8


1901 (Find My Past)
Harry Thompson Head Married Male 40 1861 Yardman On Farm Welney, Norfolk
Ellen Thompson Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Welney, Norfolk, England
George Thompson Son Single Male 14 1887 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Sarah Thompson Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Gertrude Thompson Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Ivy Thompson Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Bertrum Thompson Son - Male 2 1899 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Sophia Thompson Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Welney, Norfolk, England
Street 100 Ft Bank
Town Welney
Parish Welney
County Norfolk
Registration district Downham
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 1894
Folio 111
Page 6

Chris :)

I think maybe the one going to USA is not your Phyllis.

There was another Phyllis le Roy born Maine USA 1909 wife of Gaylord Clarke Le Roy 28/9/1910-6/5/1995 he was a professor and she was also in teaching.

Phyllis Le Roy born 29/12/1909 Bar Harbour Maine left Southampton 7/10/1946 on the ship Southampton and arrived New York 14/10/1946 at the side of her name it has D for divorced I think.
On one travel record it says in transit to Switzerland,Gaylord C Le Roy has travel record from Italy 23/8/1953 where he is with a Eva S le Roy born Switzerland

It was niggling at me as to why your Phyllis would be down as USA citizen and staying at 1,Grosvener Square which looks to be American Embassy in 1946,that is why I asked what she did as a job on second marriage cert.

I'am now wondering if your Phyllis didn't go to USA, but I maybe wrong.

Maryb.

(coming up as Littleport on below, unfortunately not seeing him on Cambridgeshire Baptism Index cd, or Littleport Parish Register cd)

Chris :)

https://www.camdex.org.uk/search.cfm

332/B-LIT36/108 METCALFE Brian W 1929


edits (the 1939 posted for above, with Childerley, was Coton, Cambs. The Plough)

I suspect Brian was Doris's child.

Doris's father was Michael Charles Metcalfe.
Phyllis's was William Henry Metcalfe.

Looking at censuses, Michael doesn't appear to have had a brother called William, so Doris and Phyllis weren't even cousins.