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Hi"Hood".I have finally got around to trying to sort out your replies.I have John Herbert Dunne on my tree,plus much more, thanks to a massive amount of help from Find Ancestors researchers.If you would like any more info at all please contact me direct.I think "JulietM1" has my E.Mail address.
Regards,Terry L.

Hi,Juliet and Hood.Haven't been ignoring you.I have just returned from a few days at relatives in Scotland.Wife banned taking of laptop with me,so I am just starting to catch up on messages.Will look thro' them all and get back to you.

Regards,Terry L.

Hi Terry.
As the last member of the Dunne line (son of John Herbert - aka Jack), I can indeed confirm that my grandfather was born in India. Unfortunately I don't know any more about that. As a schoolmaster in Glasgow he also ran a football team that eventually became known as Celtic United.

I have done now thank you very much

Juliet,

If you click on Terence's name on the left hand side of his messages you should be able to send him a personal message.

Hi, I've just put in my Grandfather's name in to google and it came up with your thread. I hope this helps but he was John Herbert Dunne. He died in 1976 and my father, his only son John Michael Dunne is still alive and living in Peterborough. Dad is 75. He has given me an old photo album of his father's when he was in the RAF travelling around the middle east which is interesting and I think there may be photos of his Grandparents in there too and maybe other relatives, I will have to have a closer look. Anyway James Aloysius Dunne was a headmaster at a Roman Catholic school in Glasgow and apparently helped to set up Celtic Football Club. My Grandfather ended up living in Oswestry, Shropshire as he worked at the hospital there and is buried with my Grandmother in Shrewsbury Crematorium.

Hi,everybody.Regarding the PHILIP family.

.I came across a birth for William Philip on 22/11/1846 at Kirriemuir,Forfar,Angus.Parents given as Alexander Philip and Mary Carnegie
.
I also found a marriage for William Philip to a Mary Falconer at St.Cyrus
Kinkardine,on 03/06/1870.

The family are also shown in 1871,1881 and 1891 Scottish Censuses.

Nothing proven as yet but dates and birth places seem to correspond,pretty much.
Now I need info on Mary Carnegie and Mary Falconer. Any help greatly appreciated.
Regards,Terry L.

Again,Cheers.
Terry L

TerryL...I have not come across that site before but whoever/whatever it is does marry up with what I found relating to George Cinnamond b Tradeston and parents appear to be Thomas Cinnamond and Margaret Morrison.
Thomas and Margaret married 9 June 1852 in Barony Lanarkshire
Interestingly found a "male" child born to them in Bangor Co Down 1872.

Name Cinnamond
Gender Male
Christening Place BANGOR, DOWN, IRE
Birth Date 31 Aug 1872
Birthplace Bangor, Down, Ire
Father's Name Thomas Cinnamond
Mother's Name Margaret Morrison

Can find no other children b Co Down before/after to this couple...

1881 Scottish Census would be worth checking out


All theother info would be verifiable/not with access to Scotlands People.

Hi.I certainly have not seen this item.Will have a good look at it over the next few days.
Thanks so very much,Terry L.

TerryL...Have you seen this ?

https://www.myheritage.com/names/george_cinnamond

TerryL....The Cinnamon/d Surname is interesting as it was few and far between during the time in question and probably all belonging to the same or extended family... Surname originates mainly in the Co Down and Antrim with some showing for the Co Cavan.

Thanks for that one,Eringobragh.Obviously not British,this transcriber.!!
Every little bit helps.
Cheers,Terry L.

TerryL.....This is George Cinnamond 1881 Census...Don't know who was responsible for transcribing but they need to get their Geography correct !!
Wonder what original looks like...?

RG115028/45
Page 5

William Street South Shields....

John Garaig Head M 26 Glasgow, Scotland
Ann Cinnanno Garaig Wife F 26 Hebbn, Durham, England
Jessy Garaig Daughter F 2 Hebbn, Durham, England
Catherin Garaig Daughter F 3 M Hebbn, Durham, England
William Cinnannod Boarder M 21 Glasgow, England
*** George Cinnanno Boarder M 18 Glasgow, England ***

Glasgow England..!!!!!
Ann's place of birth was not Hebburn but Glasgow

The above should read John CRAIG..he married George's elder sister Anne in Govan 18 July 1873.
There was a son John born to the couple in 1874 (Govan) he may have died as he is not on the Census ....
William was also a brother to George and the men were shipyard workers at the time of the Census.

Thank you both.That's a brilliant start for me.
Regards,Terry L.

1939 Register
Mabel Philip b 14 Mar 1907 occ Trained Nurse Hospital Married
James G Philip b 01 Aug 1912 Gardener Commerical Married
Two other entries officially closed

Address 149 Elwick Road, West Hartlepool, Durham

James snr 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

William Philip Head Married Male 34 1847 Coach Hirer Kirriemuir, Forfarshire (Angus),
Mary Philip Wife Married Female 33 1848 - St Cyrus, Forfarshire (Angus),
Maggie Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1870 Scholar Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
Bella Philip Daughter - Female 7 1874 Scholar Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
James Philip Son - Male 5 1876 Scholar Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
Mary Philip Daughter - Female 4 1877 - Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus),
Jane Ann Philip Daughter - Female 2 1879 - Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus),
John Philip Son - Male 1 1880 - Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus),
Thomas Philip Son - Male 0 1881 - Broughty Ferry, Forfarshire (Angus),

perhaps somebody has access to the 1939 for the birth dates to confirm:

West Hartlepool C.B., Durham, England
Mabel Philip 1907
Philip (James G) 1912 1st August 1912
2 more people who are officially closed

EDIT: Details of Scotland birth are correct- James Gray Philip born 1st August 1912

James Gray and Isabella Morris married 1900. Marriage cert available on Scotlandspeople

James snr 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Vincent Place, Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

Margaret Philip Head Unmarried Female 19 1872 Dressmaker Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
Isabella Philip Sister Unmarried Female 17 1874 Waitress Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
James G Philip Brother Unmarried Male 16 1875 Baker App Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
Mary C Philip Sister Unmarried Female 14 1877 Dressmaker App Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus),