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You're probably right Jude, although I haven't had the chance to look at the thread again properly.

It's funny how sometimes a 'twig' just niggles away, isn't it?

Thank you everyone who has assisted in this quest. :-)

Hooray!

So......the birth date of his wife Florence , I think, favours Florence Clarke rather than Florence Gunn being the wife.

Jude

BC arrived today

Percy Taylor b 1 Sep 1890 @ 61 Palin St, Hyson Green, Nottingham.
Son of Arthur Taylor & Eliza Ann Taylor formerly Meakin.

You're all so kind. Thank you.

Hi again Det,

I've just been reading though all the post on this thread and noticed abt a Will left by Eliza Ann Taylor. In the archives they have books called Office Copy of Will's I'm not sure what year they go up to but I could have a look and see if Eliza's is there and if so it might give a clue on Percy.

Wendy

Hi Det,

Sorry, yes went though all the burials I sent you and there was only one other burial in the grave with Eliza Ann and that was a Arthur Taylor aged 18yrs in 1910 most likely her son I had sent you that one too.

Wendy

If the birth certificate comes back with 01 September then the birth date of his wife Florence , I think, favours Florence Clarke rather than Florence Gunn being the wife.

But we'll have to wait until the end of next week to find out :-(

Jude

(saw below, if relating anywhere!)

Chris :)

05 November 1930 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

BIRTHS
TAYLOR - On the 5th, at 10, Sandon-street, to Mrs. P. Taylor (nee Florence Gunn), a daughter

I agree Jude ;-)

Just hope that cert arrives soon......................

Dea x

Hi Dea, didn't realise there was a separate industry!

Either way, I think it could be a credible reason for the change of occupation.

Jude

Sorry for neglecting replies - been off line. Back to normal sometime tomorrow.

Wendy, you kindly sent me the Eliza (Meakin) Taylor burial already. If there's any easy way to seeing anyone else is in the same plot, that would be great, thank you.

This was in the lace industry - he was in Silk !!

Both declined for very different reasons but around the same tme !!

Dea x

Hi Det,

Sorry to come in on this a bit late but I'll have a look at the burial of Eliza Ann (Meakin) Taylor was buried in plot 8233 next time I'm in the archives for you.

Wendy :-)

Thank Jude. How interesting.

It came from an article (link below)

http://www.williams.gen.nz/hosiery.html

World trade conditions worsened after the 1929 financial crisis, which started in America and the lace trade continued to decline. The effect on the Lace Market can be seen from an analysis of the firms in Kelly's Directory for 1932 of Nottinghamshire. The old distinction in earlier directories between lace makers and lace manufacturers disappeared and instead the trade is divided into lace manufacturers and lace curtain manufacturers. The directory names 158 and 44 respectively, after allowing for a few firms which appeared in both. Of these 202 firms, which covered the whole county, 37 were outside the town mainly at Beeston and Chilwell. Of the remainder 120 were in or adjoining the Lace Market. The way in which the buildings in the Lace Market were now used can be seen from the directory. On High Pavement, 54 firms were listed and 15 of these were not lace firms. They included a printer, bookseller, engraver, cardboard box manufacturer, colliery furnishers, a manufacturing chemist and textile trades other than lace. On Stoney Street, the change was even more marked. Out of 58 firms only 36 were connected with lace. Other uses included the Telephone Manager's Office, a foreign translating and typewriting agency, a secretarial training college as well as electrical wholesalers, a plumber and a tyre manufacturer. It is interesting to note that the directory also lists nine lace dealers in Nottingham, seven of whom had stalls in the newly opened Central Market on Parliament Street.

The outbreak of war, in 1939, again meant a disruption of normal trade. The lace industry was adapted for wartime production making such items as mosquito nets and camouflage netting. Whilst this enabled the industry to carry on, it did nothing to help the physical environment of the Lace Market. The diversification of uses and the unavailability of resources to maintain the buildings meant that they continued to deteriorate. In addition, although Nottingham did not experience the devastation from air raids which other towns did, the Lace Market had buildings on Short Hill and St. Mary's Gate which were considerably damaged in May 1941.

Jude

Thank you both. I really appreciate everyone's input. :-)

I'll go for the BC first as then we should be able to match it up with a 1939 entry. Jude, thank you for the info about the Notts silk industry. I'd assumed it was after 1945 - parachutes and all that.

I'd buy the birth cert first- although the marriage may seem correct, it might be that Percy moved from Nottingham and married/ died elsewhere.

Ah well done AustinQ - during my insomniac hour I was on the Ipad and haven't got the link to the Find a Will on the Ipad.

Det - I'd invest in the marriage certificate to Florence Lee

These are the two possible marriages

Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
Taylor Percy Clarke Nottingham 7b 917
Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
Taylor Percy Gunn Nottingham 7b 1038

And this is my reasoning for choosing the 1928 marriage

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Clarke Florence Lee Nottingham 7b 274

Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Gunn Florence Basford 7b 266

That way you will be able to see that we have the correct Percy.

Regarding the change of vocation, the Nottingham lace industry was in decline from the Wall Street Crash in 1929 onwards - maybe that accounted for it?

Jude

For the death that PH & Dea put up on page 1:

Name: Percy Taylor
Birth Date: 1 Sep 1890
Date of Registration: Jun 1971
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c Page: 857

Wills & Probate:

TAYLOR Percy of Hawthornes Beckhampton Road Bestwood Pk Nottingham died 15 April 1971 Administration (with Will) Nottingham 20 May £2078

Ok the Florence born September 1887 matches the marriage in September 1928 Florence lee Clarke to Percy ... The 1929 marriage to Florence gunn matches a birth in June 1887. And this Percy matches the 1971 death

Jude