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There is a death in 1909 for James Watson aged 56 which would be right.

Jane

It looks likely although it says Kate is a widow and comes from Winchester. All the other census she comes from Yorkshire.

The rest of it looks good.

Thanks again

Jane

There is a Kate Watson in the South Shields Union Workhouse/Hospital in 1911

Kate Watson in the 1911 England Census
Name: Kate Watson
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: South Shields

Kate Watson 21

Could this be Harry.........

??

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
WATSON Richard H Watson S.Shields 10a 1690

Same family 1911??

Name: Kate Watson
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Winchester, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 12 Queens Place William Street Hull
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Hull
Registration District Number: 522
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 28762
Household Members:
Name Age
Kate Watson 49 Winchester, Hampshire
William Watson 23 son Middlesex, London
Henry Watson 14 son Yorkshire, Hull
Alfred Watson 12 son Yorkshire, Hull
Evaline Watson 7 daughter Yorkshire, Hull

Married 28 years, 8 children, 6 still living (all crossed out).

That looks likely AustinQ Thank you.

All the best

Jane

So is this her birth?

Kate Amelia Watson
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d Page: 284

Thanks AustinQ

That looks better.

All the best

Jane

This looks like them in 1891

1891

Name James Watson
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Parish Holy Trinity And St Mary
Ecclesiastical Parish ST STEPHENS
Registration District Hull
Residence Note St Stephens Square
Gender Male
Age 38
Marital Status Married
Occupation Boot Maker
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1853
Birthplace Northumberland, England
Page Number 36
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3937/ 86

James Watson Head M 38 Northumberland, England
Kate E Watson Wife F 30 Yorkshire, England
John E Watson Son M 4 London, England
William T Watson Son M 3 London, England
Kate A Watson Daughter F 1 Yorkshire, England

Jane

Think you have half the census missing:

1901
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 4498 Folio: 103 Page Number: 9
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
James Watson 48 North Shields<<<<<<<<<<<
Kate Watson 40 Hull, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<
John E Watson 14
William T Watson 13
Kate Watson 11
Richard H Watson 4
Alfred E Watson 2

However who are the parents. These children would not be living alone. they are too young.

I think I have found them.

1901 Census

Name Kate Watson
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Holy Trinity And St Mary, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Civil Parish Holy Trinity And St Mary
Ecclesiastical Parish Saint Stephens
Sub-District Humber
Registration District Hull
Residence Note North Street
Gender Female
Age 11
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1890
Birthplace Hull, Yorkshire
Schedule Type 56
Page Number 9

William F Watson Son M 13 West Kilborn, London
Kate Watson Daughter F 11 Hull, Yorkshire
Richard H Watson Son M 4 Hull, Yorkshire
Alfred E Watson Son M 2 Hull, Yorkshire

Jane

From John Grays obituary it states that R H Watson was his step son. So perhaps Harry is not his first name.

Also he is married in 1943 but I do not know who to.

It also mentiosns a brother and sister in law by the name of Mr and Mrs A. E Watson.

It says John has an adopted son Mr P Cassidy I know nothing about.

I don't know whether any of this helps

Jane.

Thanks rootgatherer. I have no idea who the third person is on the 1939. the only person I can't account for is someone called Dennis Gray. Apparently he is the son of John William Gray. I am not sure who the mother is though. ? Sarah Niles or Mary E Proctor (nee Carratt) .

Johns other children include:-
Mary Alice b1907 -she married Alfred Overton
John William Gray b 1910 he died in 1916
James Gray he died in 1916
Sidney gray b1917 - 1933
Hilda 1919 married Arthur Eggitt
Mary Gray married Alfred Overton

That leaves Dennis unaccounted for. The only birth I can find is for 1906 b Doncaster. This would make Sarah Niles his Mum. This would be before they married. The only thing is Dennis does not show on the 1911 with his parents.

As for Harry Watson I have no information on him at all. Sorry.

Thanks again

Jane

Think this is your Kate's death

Kate A Gray
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jun 1948
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Scunthorpe
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 327

Looking at the probate for Kate, this looks like Harold

Harold Percival Talbot
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1893
Date of Registration: Mar 1976
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1693

EDIT

Forget that, that probate was for the Kate Alice not your Kate.

Jane, it's from the 1939 register. I don't know that it really helps. Can you by any chance identify the person whose record is closed?

Do you have any idea of an approximate year of birth for Harry Watson? Just wondering if we can find him on the register. Of course he may be a Henry or Harold or something just to complicate matters lol

Thank you so much for all your help Andy PricklyHolly,, Margaret, rootgatherer and safc. I really appreciate all the work you have done for me. Thankfully I am now back on track.

rootgatherer where did you get the Gray Household information from?

All the best

Jane

Gray Household (3 People)
17 Redbourn Way , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)
John W E Gray
DOB 16 Nov 1879
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Locomotive Driver L N E R
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 197
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Kate A Gray
DOB 24 Jul 1889
SEX Female
OCCUPATION House Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 197
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

A good find Safc.......but we have now established, that is not the Kate that Jane is interested in.

:-)

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Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Gainsborough
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 258
Marriage date 27 Jul 1903
Groom forename John Charles
Groom surname WATSON
Groom age 27
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Trinity Street
Groom occupation Machinist
Bride forename Kate Alice
Bride surname OAKLEY
Bride age 24
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Trinity Street
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname WATSON
Groom father occupation Farmer
Bride father forename David
Bride father surname OAKLEY
Bride father occupation Painter
Witness1 forename Walter
Witness1 surname BROUGH
Witness2 forename Marie
Witness2 surname ZINIKER