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So does this mean EDNA wasn't the Chapman...Hilda, his second wife was/became one?

Which would mean that the Edna Parr birth in Halifax is probably what you are looking for

Jude

I would certainly try to obtain Albert's second marriage certificate- small clues can often lead to answers.

National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Albert Start Taylor
Probate Date: 27 Nov 1951
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 16 Jul 1951
Death Place: Leicestershire, Leicester, England

Depending on when Albert died .............

this looks a possible for Hilda's remarriage

Marriages Jun 1952 (>99%)

CHAPMAN Frederick J TAYLOR Loughboro' 3a 1482
TAYLOR Hilda CHAPMAN Loughboro' 3a 1482


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Deaths Sep 1951 (>99%)
TAYLOR Albert S 78 Loughboro' 3a 532

Emma

re hilda chapman (taylor)

The 1939 Register formed the basis for the NHS list in 1947, and was then updated regularly until at least 1991

All that means is that Hilda Taylor married again some time after 1939 ......... Chapman is her "new" married name

Ann........Edna is married and age 35 on the 1911 census.

So, she certainly wasn't born in 1906.

Ann she was married 10 years by 1911....

If the marriage Margee posted is correct -and it's the only marriage that comes up for Albert Taylor to Edna - then edna parr was born 1880 in Halifax.

Mm

Jude

is that not her birth I posted earlier? at 13.36?

still cant find the birth or the marriage... very starnge that hilda in the reference above for 1939 register is hilda chapman (taylor) when I found her to be hilda flinders

This looks like the birth for that person:

Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
CHAPMAN Etty Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 83

and marriage:

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
Chapman Etty Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 125
Young Henry Mansfield 7b 125

and death:
Deaths Sep 1939 (>99%)
Young Etty E 70 Basford 7b 152

So not that one Mavis

could this be her -- minus 5 y ???


1891Name: Etty E Chapman

Address: Chesterfield Road ... Age: 21... Born In: 1870... Birth Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire... Relation: Serv... Profession: House Maid...

Mavis

Thank you for the information I'm just going through it.... Yes I'm aware of the second marriage as he had 2 children in second marriage. I still can't find birth details for Edna. I will have a look at the article.

Albert's second marriage: Do you have this certificate? Is he described as widow?

Marriages Dec 1927 (>99%)
Flinders Hilda Start-Taylor Barrow S. 7a 445
Start-Taylor Albert Flinders Barrow S. 7a 445
TAYLOR Albert S FLINDERS Barrow S. 7a 445

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Portland Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Edith Millard Head Single Female 39 1862 Green Grocer Not Known
Albert Taylor Boarder Married Male 39 1862 Draper Leicestershire, England
Edna Taylor Boarder Married Female 39 1862 - Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Arthur Barnes Boarder Married Male 25 1876 Clerk Prestbury, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Barnes Boarder Married Female 25 1876 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Winifred Barnes - - Female 5 1896 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Gladys Barnes - - Female 0 1901 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

An article in the paper describing Albert Start Taylor's bankruptcy in the Cheltenham Court states

Cheltenham Chronicle - Saturday 23 August 1902

"In the first case, that of Albert Start Taylor of 20 Portland Street, draper........Debtor said he was 29 years old and travelling draper. He had commenced business two years ago....he ceased to be a tenant of 20 Portland Street in March, in consequence of a difference between himself and his wife in business matters. She became tenant and commenced business as a dress maker. He was married on August 27th 1900 and his wife then had no separate property, neither had she acquired any since"

in case you don,t have it


1939 Register Transcription

Taylor Household (4 People) 204 Abbey Lane , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire,
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Albert Start Taylor 21 Jan 1873 Male Grocer & Provision Dealer Married 20 1
Hilda Chapman (Taylor) 03 May 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 20 2
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Sydney Victor Taylor 24 Dec 1915 Male Grocers Assistant Single 20 4

1911 for inf0
Name: Edna Taylor
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester
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County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address: 70 Upper Charles St Leicester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Shop Keeper
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 19225
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert S Taylor 38
Edna Taylor 35
Edna V Taylor 9
Albert G Taylor 7
Frank F Taylor

Possible marriage?

MARRIAGES Mar. 1900

Parr Edna Halifax 9a 616
Taylor Albert Halifax 9a 616

Is this her in 1911? Says married 10 years.

Edna Taylor

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Edna Taylor
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester
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County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address: 70 Upper Charles St Leicester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Shop Keeper
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 19225
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert S Taylor 38
Edna Taylor 35
Edna V Taylor 9
Albert G Taylor 7
Frank F Taylor 4

Name Edna Chapman
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1906
Registration District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Event Place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Volume 7B
Page 327
Line Number 2

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Name Edna Chapman
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Nottinghamshire
Parish Mansfield Woodhouse
Sub-District Warsop
Registration District Mansfield
Gender Female
Age 4
Birthplace Nottingham Meadows, Nottinghamshire
Record Type Household