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Catherine
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3 Feb 2016 14:41 |
Marriage for Ann B. Trotter:-
Name Luis Yglesias Event Type Marriage Registration Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1934 Registration District Tynemouth County Northumberland Event Place Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Spouse Name (available after 1911) Trotter Volume 10B Page 617 Line Number 31 Trotter probably married one of the following people Name Ann B Trotter
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Catherine
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3 Feb 2016 14:35 |
Just for info, the family came back to England in 1924
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 PASSENGER LISTSView Image NAME: Elizabeth Trotter BIRTH: abt 1891 DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 PASSENGER LISTSView Image NAME: Davinia Trotter BIRTH: abt 1915 DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 PASSENGER LISTSView Image NAME: Anne Trotter BIRTH: abt 1916 DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 PASSENGER LISTSView Image NAME: David Trotter BIRTH: abt 1919 DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England
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Chris Ho :)
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3 Feb 2016 11:06 |
What are details from below, do you have Cert.?...
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- Trotter George A Tynemouth 10b 389 Swinhoe Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 389
Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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3 Feb 2016 11:04 |
Angela........you need to go back to my first post on page 2 and read through all the info posted from then on.
Then all will become clear that it was George Alexander Trotter born 1889 who married Elizabeth Swinhoe.
Posted earlier by MarieCeleste.........
George Trotter in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: George Trotter Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 33 Birth Year: abt 1888 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Chef (Head)
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Trotter Father Birth Place: Scotland<<<<<<<<<< Mother Birth Place: Scotland<<<<<<<<< Year of Immigration: 1920 Racial or Tribal Origin: Anglaise (English)
Province or Territory: Quebec District: Hochelaga District Number: 167 Sub-District: Delormier Ward, Montreal Sub-District Number: 30 City, Town or Village: Montreal Street or Township: 1310 Tullum Municipality: Montreal
Occupation: Machiniste Income: 200
Household Members: Name Age George Trotter 33 Elizabeth Trotter 30 David Trotter 3 Davinia Trotter 7 Nancy Trotter 6
As you can see from the 1911...1901...1891 and 1881 census records posted earlier, George Alexander Trotter's parents were born in Scotland.
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Angela
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3 Feb 2016 10:48 |
George Trotter Snr DOB 1865 married Margaret Adamson and they had 11 children, one of which was George Jnr DOB 1895. George Jnr married Elizabeth Swinhoe and they had 3 children Davinia, Ann and David. Davinia (Vena) had a daughter Mavis but she died without having any children. David married but had no children either. Ann (Nancy) married Luis Iglesias, who later changed his name to Churchill, and they had 3 children, Louis, Yvonne and David. My Father-in-Law Louis is interested in finding out if he still has family in this area as he had no idea that his Grandfather came from such a big family. Hope this helps
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Catherine
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3 Feb 2016 09:39 |
Hi Angela,
Are you looking for the George from the 1911 census, who was born in 1895 in North Shields or the George who married Elizabeth Swinhoe and went on to have the three children.
As you can see from the information found we are looking at two different people here so what is important now is to know which George is yours?
The father of the three children would seem to be George Alexander, as shown on marriage record, so if you are a descendant of one of the children born to this marriage, then the 1911 census with the list of siblings that you have given, is not the correct George and you need to refer to the 1911 census posted by PricklyHolly on previous page.
So, what we need to know is which George is the correct one?
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PricklyHolly
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3 Feb 2016 09:25 |
Yes Angela, but.........that is not the George who married Elizabeth Swinhoe.
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Angela
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3 Feb 2016 09:20 |
Hello
I have a copy of the 1911 census which states that George senior was 46 and George junior as 16, date of birth 1895.
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Catherine
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2 Feb 2016 21:03 |
Yes Angela it can be confusing when you don't give correct information. Could you just explain why, in your original post you stated that George had siblings:-
" George was one of 11 children, Mary, Alice, Lillian, Kate, Sarah, Joseph, Edgar, Thomas, Margaret and Selby."
You must have had some reason for thinking this?
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PricklyHolly
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2 Feb 2016 20:52 |
Hi Angela
Thank you for getting back to us.
If you read through the whole of this thread, you will see that the information you gave in your opening post, regarding the George Trotter born 1895 was incorrect.
Prickles. x
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Angela
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2 Feb 2016 20:39 |
Thank you everyone. It is a bit confusing with names being repeated but keep it coming.
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PricklyHolly
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2 Feb 2016 20:38 |
If you look at my first post on page one Marie.......I edited and advised Angela to check out my first post on page two. Stating that I thought she had made a mistake regarding the George Trotter born 1895.
Prickles.
;-)
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MarieCeleste
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2 Feb 2016 20:03 |
Agreed Prickles! I do think all the posts related to the "wrong" George are going to be confusing for Angela.
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PricklyHolly
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2 Feb 2016 19:57 |
When I spotted on the marriage record that George had the middle initial "A"......I thought, hmmm, there is something not quite right here.
I think we are now on the right track.
Prickles ;o))
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MarieCeleste
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2 Feb 2016 19:54 |
And for further proof:
Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: George Alexander Trotter Gender: Male Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Birth Place: Whitehaven, England Age: 31 Date of Arrival: Oct 1920 Port of Arrival: Quebec Ship Name: Minnedosa
Gives his next of kin as his wife Elizabeth at 13 Boundary Street, Willington Quay.
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MarieCeleste
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2 Feb 2016 19:52 |
This might further clarify the age of the correct George Trotter:
George Trotter in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: George Trotter Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 33 Birth Year: abt 1888 <<<<< Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Chef (Head)
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Trotter Father Birth Place: Scotland Mother Birth Place: Scotland Year of Immigration: 1920 Racial or Tribal Origin: Anglaise (English)
Province or Territory: Quebec District: Hochelaga District Number: 167 Sub-District: Delormier Ward, Montreal Sub-District Number: 30 City, Town or Village: Montreal Street or Township: 1310 Tullum Municipality: Montreal
Occupation: Machiniste Income: 200
Household Members: Name Age George Trotter 33 Elizabeth Trotter 30 David Trotter 3 Davinia Trotter 7 Nancy Trotter 6
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MarieCeleste
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2 Feb 2016 19:50 |
Looking at the Royal Naval Division service records (on FindMyPast) for the George Trotter of Addison Street, North Shields (the one shown in the census previously posted) - he can't be the one who married Elizabeth Swinhoe.
That lad was apparently still single when he enlisted in 1913 - he gives his next of kin as his father George.
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PricklyHolly
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2 Feb 2016 19:46 |
Elizabeth Trotter in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Elizabeth Trotter Gender: Female Age: 29 Birth Date: abt 1891 Departure Date: 20 Oct 1920 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Quebec, Canada Ship Name: Empress of France Shipping line:Canadian Pacific Railway Official Number: 136266 Master: Mr E Cook
Elizabeth Trotter 29 Housewife Davina Trotter 6 Scholar Ann Trotter 4 Scholar David Trotter 2 Scholar
Elizabeth Trotter in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Elizabeth Trotter Birth Date: abt 1891 Age: 33 Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada Arrival Date: 3 Oct 1924 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Montcalm Shipping line:Canadian Pacific Line Official Number: 120940 Elizabeth Trotter 33 Housewife...27 Station Road, Willington Quay, Northumberland Davinia Trotter 9 Scholar Anne Trotter 8 Scholar David Trotter 5 Child
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Catherine
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2 Feb 2016 19:31 |
This also looks to be the Gerge Trotter born 1895 N.Shields:-
Name: George Trotter Gender: Male Age: 26 Birth Date: abt 1896 Address:- 52 North King Street, North Shields Occupation: Marine Engineer Departure Date: 17 Mar 1922 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Singapore Ship Name: Dongola Search Ship Database: Search for the Dongola in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: P & O S N Co Official Number: 121270 Master: C R A Newby ............................ Name: Mr G Trotter Birth Date: abt 1895 Age: 33 Address:- same as above Occupation:- Engineer Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan Arrival Date: 26 Nov 1928 Port of Arrival: London, England Ship Name: Hakozaki Maru Search Ship Database: Search for the Hakozaki Maru in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Nippon Yusen Kaisha Official Number: 28858 ....................................
Name: George Trotter Birth Date: abt 1896 Age: 49 Address:- Lindisfarne Terrace, North Shields Occupation:- Chief Engineer Port of Departure: Marseilles, France Arrival Date: 5 Feb 1945 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Arundel Castle Search Ship Database: Search for the Arundel Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd Official Number: 145175
..................lots more entries for the same person, so looks like he made a real career out of this. Should be easy to say if this is not the correct person.
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Catherine
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2 Feb 2016 19:17 |
If the George Angela is looking for is George Alexander, then why state that he had the siblings she says he had in her original posting?????
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