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he is a hard nut to crack catherine,he is so well hidden he might as well be a john smith,lol

i've tried to find him on 1911 but no luck so far?

its a posibility malyon but dont think they had any money, i havent found him on any outgoing ships.
i know that sylviaincanada,i didnt mean any thing by it,just didnt want people wasting their valuable time searching loads of things up when i have them, im sorry if iv offended anyone,yes i have looked for him after 1913,and i did say i supose he could have been alive and they didnt have contact. im grateful for people helping me ,iv spent yrs on the internet trying to find this date of death ,difrent spelling,areas,newspapers,you name it iv looked,but i also know that a fresh pair of eyes sometimes see what i cant. :-)

Jacqueline ............

always remember that you have this guy "in your head", we helpers don't, so we have to do some background searching in order to know who we are looking for.

That is why we post the background information .............. we know you have it, but we're trying to help each other know more.


Have you looked for his death later than daughter Edith's marriage?


It is always possible that she declared him deceased when he was not .............. either lost touch with him, family strife or .................

could have gone abroad

its on freebmd,i looked to see if it was on there for an age at death,and its def the same one as same vol and page numbers etc, a child age 0

its not his death, i looked on freebmd, and its a child age 0. so back to the drawing board :-(

yes that was his son, my gr grandad,,and thankyou for that info,iv looked for yrs and cant find him, il order that cert with fingers crossed, it just seems wierd that theres nothing on him after 1908 except him being deceased on daughters marriage in 1913, but i suppose he could have still been alive and they didnt have contact, knowing what families are like, :)

could be his death in 1920 southwark not far from Peckham

found this on familysearch not showing on bdm

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name Robert Sivyer
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1920
Registration District St. Olave Southwark
County London
Event Place St. Olave Southwark, London, England
Volume 1D
Page 151
Line Number 148

could be his son in 1911



Robert Sivier

England and Wales Census, 1911

Name Robert Sivier
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Hampshire
Parish Itchen
Sub-District St Mary Extra
Registration District South Stoneham
Gender Male
Age 23
Birthplace London Peckham, London
Record Type Household

ok, sorry, i just dont want anyone wasting their time looking for stuff i already have.
;-)

Just posting info to get a better picture Jacqueline.

1911 Charles and brother George:-

Name: Charles Sivier
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Camberwell
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 2 Barforth Road, Peckham S E
Occupation: SCHOLAR
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration District Number: 27
Sub-registration district: Peckham South
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 2588


ame: George Sivier
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Inmate

..........which is same address as given on school admission record.

thankyou for looking,but i have that,there are a few more as well, that was after his wife died, i cant find him after that,except on the daughters marriage certs, i have all the familys certs etc, except his death one, thats the only thing i need ,its been a long 15yr search,lol

This would be relevant:-

Name: Chas Sivier
Age: 9
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1899
School: Choumert Road School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 23 Nov 1908
Parent: Robt Sivier
Notes: Choumert Road School (0812) opened in 1894. Closed or reorganised 1932/3
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV07/CHO/AD/001

..............as father's name is given then looks as though he was still alive in 1908.

Original states he left on 15/05/1909
Address:- 2 Barforth Road

yes thats them, i have everything on them all except his death,he ha evaded me since 2001 :( they never moved from peckham

just to confirm date of birth:-

First name(s) ROBERT INGLES
Last name SIVIER
Birth year 1862
Birth quarter 3
District ST. GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 220
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Is this the family in 1901?

Robert Sivier Head Married Male 38 1863 Bricklayer Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Elizabeth Sivier Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Robert Sivier Son Single Male 14 1887 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Elizabeth Sivier Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Walter Sivier Son Single Male 12 1889 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Florence Sivier Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Edith Sivier Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
George Sivier Son Single Male 3 1898 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Charles Sivier Son Single Male 2 1899 - Peckham, Surrey, England

Where and when was he born please?

this is an old stubborn block,im looking for death of robert ingles sivier,he was alive 1908 when wife died in peckham london, is down on daughter florences marriage cert in dec 1911(cant find him on 1911 census) and on daughter ediths marriage cert in 1913 he is down as deceased.i may have asked for help on this befor a few yrs ago but cant find the post ,but still havent managed to find his death. i know where he was up til 1907,i just need death date to finalise him,lol, jackie