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George Spregg b.1851/1852 or 1856

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Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Dec 2015 20:32

The name could have changed purely because a lot of people were illiterate at the time so weren't sure how to spell their names. It could also be that enumerator wrote the down how he heard it and so wrote it down incorrectly. There are a number of reasons. Can be a bit confusing so that is why it is important to keep an open mind when researching your ancestors.

malyon

malyon Report 20 Dec 2015 20:33



George Spregg
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name George Spregg
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Stow, Gloucestershire, England
Registration District Stow On The Wold
Residence Note Market Place
Gender Male
Age 0
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1851
Birthplace Stow, Gloucestershire
Page Number 22
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1970 / 270
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Harriet Spregg Head F 30 Wick, Gloucestershire
Sarah Spregg Daughter F 5 Stow, Gloucestershire
Jane Spregg Daughter F 3 Stow, Gloucestershire
George Spregg Son M 14 DAYS Stow, Gloucestershire

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Dec 2015 20:44

Looks like she never married:-

1881
Name: Harriet Spragg
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wyck, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stow-on-the-Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: High Street
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2563
Folio: 24
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Spragg 64
William Spragg 12 (grandson)
(not transcribed)



Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
Spregg Harriet 73 Stow on W. 6a 228

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Dec 2015 20:46

1851 Census records have already been posted on previous page.

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Dec 2015 20:53

Unfortunately it looks as though you will probably never know the name of George's father. You could try buying a copy of his birth certificate to see if his mother noted it on there, but if he didn't put his father's name on his marriage certificate it could well be that his mother never told him his name.
It would be up to you if you wish to take the risk, or not.

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 20:57

thanks again everyone - I've just been digesting this, seems George's mum was indeed unmarried (quite a brave thing to bring up kids I guess for that time) & Charles 'Sprague' was indeed his brother, thanks Margee & Catherine. Could people just change their surname willy nilly back then...I always thought I was a 'Spregg' but now I have no clue

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 20:59

sorry, posted that comment before I read all the replies...BIG thanks everyone for taking the time to help me <3

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:05

She does seem to have been a bit of a girl your Harriet. She was either the mistress of someone who wasn't free to marry her, or just out for a good time. You would need to buy a copy of the birth certificates for all of her children to see if they all had the same father, but then again a lot of money to waste if there is no name noted. ;-)

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Dec 2015 21:12

I can't see baptisms for any of the family.

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:13

hehehe, she's put a smile on my face, for sure! :-)

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Dec 2015 21:16

...oh yes I can!


Name:Charles Spragg
Baptism Date:1 Apr 1877
Parish:Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears:Stow on the Wold
Mother:Harriet Spragg
Register Type:Parish Registers

Aged 19.

Is shown as illegitimate. No father mentioned.

Andy

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:18

thanks for looking Andrew...I know Charles (we think brother of George) married Fanny, I've seen the gravestone in Stow cemetery...I wonder whether that was brother & sister (if that was allowed in those days) & if so that was why me dad was never allowed into the 'other family' secret??? I will continue my search ;-)

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:18

woo hoo! I'm always late to reply - takes me sooo long to type!

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:20

I mean 'my' dad - I'm showing 'me Zummerzet roots!'

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Dec 2015 21:22

This might be Harriet


Name:Harriet Spragg
Baptism Date:26 Jul 1818
Parish:Wyck Rissington, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears:Wyck Rissington
Father: Samuel Spragg
Mother: Sarah Spragg
Register Type:Parish Registers


Andy

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:29

Wow, thanks again...I know I'm repeating myself bit I really appreciate you taking your time to help me...my dad will be over the moon with what you've all found!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Dec 2015 21:31

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

(above can be useful for Glos.)

Chris :)

05 September 1903 - Cheltenham Chronicle - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

STOW-ON-THE-WOLD.
George Spregg, labourer, of Stow-on-the- Wold, was brought up in custody charged with stealing potatoes from an allotment in the occupation of Mr. Augustus Green, of Stow, brewer, situated in the parish of Lower Swell. Accused was further charged with assaulting P.S. Simpson.
The sergeant said that on August 29th he saw the prisoner on Mr. Green's allotment digging potatoes, Witness asked him to account for the potatoes. The prisoner became violent, and witness took him into custody. Near the police station, prisoner threw witness against the wall, cutting his eye. Prisoner was sentenced to one month's hard labour, this punishment covering both cases.


22 December 1906 - Cheltenham Chronicle - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

STOW-ON THE-WOLD.
George Spregg, late Stow, for using: obscene language at Stow on the 11th inst., the evidence of PC. Aston, was fined 6s., to include costs.


25 May 1889 - Cheltenham Chronicle - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Deaths
SPREGG - May 15, at the Union Workhouse, Maugersbury, Harriet Spregg, of Stow-on-the Wold, aged 73 years

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:46

.......................following on from baptism for Harriet, this may also be relevant?

Name Samuel Spragg
Spouse's Name Sarah Wheeler
Event Date 22 Mar 1802
Event Place Wyck Rissington,Gloucester,England

Christine

Christine Report 20 Dec 2015 21:51

thanks Chris, tried all (the many) surnames for George b. 1948 to 1956 but found nothing...thanks again Catherine - I will re-visit tomorrow...my mind is boggled at the moment (& the glass of red didn't help)...I will be back tomorrow. Thanks all :*

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Dec 2015 21:58

Ancestry version of above marriage.....


Name:Jannel Spiagge
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:22 Mar 1802
Spouse: Sarah Wheeler
Event Type:Marriage
Parish:Wyck Rissington, Gloucestershire
Parish as it Appears:Wyck Rissington
Register Type:Parish Registers

Andy