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27 Dec 2015 21:00 |
Baptism County Lincolnshire Place Bigby Church name All Saints Register type Unspecified Baptism date 20 Sep 1857 Person forename Margaret Dixon Person sex F Person abode Bigby Father forename Joseph Father surname COOK Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Elizabeth
Baptism County Lincolnshire Place Bonby Church name St Andrew Register type Unspecified Register entry number 562 Baptism date 23 Dec 1860 Person forename William George Person sex M Person abode Bonby Father forename Joseph Father surname COOK Father occupation groom Mother forename Elizabeth
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(from above)
1861 (Find My Past) Joseph Cook Head Married Male 23 1838 Groom Ulceby, Lincolnshire, England Elizabeth Cook Wife Married Female 23 1838 - Searby, Lincolnshire, England Margaret Cook Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Bigby, Lincolnshire, England Elen Cook Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Bonby, Lincolnshire, England William G Cook Son - Male 0 1861 - Bonby, Lincolnshire, England Street Village Street Parish Bonby County Lincolnshire Registration district Glanford Brigg Enumeration district 19 Archive reference RG09 Piece number 2404 Folio number 102 Page number 2
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------- Beanlands John Wharfedale 9a 253 COOK Margaret Dixon Wharfedale 9a 253
1891 (Find My Past) John Beanlands Head Married Male 33 1858 Grocer Ilkley, Yorkshire, England Margaret D Beanlands Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Bonby, Lincolnshire, England Edward E Beanlands Son - Male 6 1885 - Ben Rhydding, Yorkshire, England Street Cunliffe Road Town Ilkley Parish Ilkley County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Registration district Wharfedale Archive reference RG12 Piece number 3527 Folio 95 Page 36
Chris :)
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356544?d=asc&page=0
PricklyHolly Report 6 Dec 2015 11:56
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 NameJames Samuel Cook Birth Date1 May 1898 ParishHorton, All Saints Baptism Date13 Jul 1898 FatherJohn Henry Cook (Farmer) Wheatley Old Hall, Ben Rhydding MotherClara Ellen Cook
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 NameNelly Cook Birth Date6 Oct 1892 >>>> 6th Oct 1890 on the image. ParishIlkley Baptism Date7 Dec 1892 FatherJohn Henry Cook MotherClara Cook
(Nellie is on the same page as Maggie)
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 20:47 |
Now moving back to my earlier request, is there any chance of finding John Henry Cook with his father Joseph and mother, currently unknown, or were they also on their honeymoon at the seaside at Scarborough? Perhaps they were walking along the cliff tops when Josephs hat got blown off .......
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 20:37 |
Thank you Andy, it seems to be an extravagant way to camouflage a 'honeymoon baby' ! Of course Ilkley Moor would be a good place for a 'honeymoon', especially if you were ba tat .....
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Andrew
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27 Dec 2015 20:01 |
Thewe is this!
Name:Nelly Cook Birth Date:6 Oct 1892 Parish:Ilkley Search Photos: Search for 'Ilkley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date:7 Dec 1892 Father:John Henry Cook Mother:Clara Cook
Gives birth as Oct 1890 not 1892.
Maybe
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COOK Nellie Bradford, Y. 9b 211
So age for Nellie in 1891 should be 5 months and not 5 years.
The Nellie Clegg I posted earlier turns out to be very red herring.
Andy
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27 Dec 2015 20:00 |
If you return in the near future, Andy, I have gone off to watch 'Open All Hours'
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 19:50 |
Strangely, in the 1901 there is :-
COOK JOHN HENRY M 1866 45 Bradford COOK CLARA ELLEN F 1862 49 Bradford COOK NELLIE F 1892 19 Bradford
plus the other children but again there is no matching FreeBMD birth!
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Andrew
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27 Dec 2015 19:41 |
Just as a caution....this baptism
Name:Nelly Clegg Birth Date:29 Apr 1885 Parish:Bradford, Holy Trinity Search Photos: Search for 'Bradford, Holy Trinity' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date:21 May 1885 Father:Joe Clegg Mother:Mary Clegg
also in the 1891 census.
Andy
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 19:19 |
So she is an earlier child of Clara Ellen or a much younger sister?
Checking my tree, Nellie has be Clara Ellen's daughter.
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Andrew
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27 Dec 2015 18:53 |
Nellie was born as Clegg. Census shows Eccleshill, which is under Bradford
Births Jun 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clegg Nellie Bradford, Y. 9b 86
EDIT. This is wrong. See further posts below.
Andy
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 18:45 |
Thank you Detective, that is most interesting, What mystifies me is how Nellie, if she is their daughter, can already be 5?
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27 Dec 2015 18:15 |
Scarborough came from a 1881? (need to check- yes is correct) census
Eastmoor Cottage, Ilkley, Wharfedale, Yorkshire, England Joseph Cook Head Married Male 42 1839 Coachman D Lincolnshire, England Elizabeth Cook Wife Married Female 43 1838 - Bigby, Lincolnshire, England Martha D Cook Daughter Single Female 23 1858 - Bigby, Lincolnshire, England Ellen Cook Daughter Single Female 22 1859 Teacher (Sch) Bonby, Yorkshire, England Wm G Cook Son Single Male 20 1861 Printer Bonby, Lincolnshire, England Walter Cook Son Single Male 17 1864 Saddler Thornton, Lincolnshire, England John H Cook Son Single Male 14 1867 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England <<
Also 1891 with his wife
John Henry Cook Boarder Married Male 25 1866 Milk Salesman Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Clara Ellen Cook Boarder Married Female 29 1862 - Heckmondwike, Yorkshire, England Nellie Cook Boarder Single Female 5 1886 - Eccleshill, Yorkshire, .........
It wasn't compulsary to register a birth prior to about 1873. Perhaps they didn't bother?
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 16:47 |
I have just checked 'View Images' in FreeBMD for the whole of 1866 and there is no John Henry Cook in Scarborough or anywhere else that seems appropriate, so checking the census for there is probably going to reveal nothing either. My 1891 does not give his place of birth so is it somewhere other than Scarborough? I have actually scoured IGI also and I can't find him being born anywhere, but at least he goes on to get married and have children!
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Frances
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27 Dec 2015 16:19 |
There has been some mention of John Henry Cook coming from Scarborough and I would like to find him with his family please. Were they still there in1871 please?
Many thanks, Frances
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Frances
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23 Dec 2015 16:44 |
Thank you Londonbelle, I have had so many threads on the go recently that my head is spinning. I think I am just asking for one piece of information, to help me fill in my tree and all you kind people give me so much extra that the best I can do is copy it out and go through it later, hoping I will understand the connections.
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JoonieCloonie
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21 Dec 2015 18:02 |
I'm just here to say ...
I saw your subject line and all I had to say was:
This is not! April 1
and you will never convince me that you have an ancestor named
Heckmondwike Cleggs
:-D
(but I had obviously suspended disbelief anyway!)
Detective is not the only one lacking in geographical savvy ... ;-)
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LondonBelle
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21 Dec 2015 17:36 |
Possible Marriage for Henry and Hannah?
Name: Henry Clegg Marriage or Bann Date: 26 May 1817 Parish: Rothwell, Holy Trinity, Yorkshire, England Spouse: Hannah Hollingsworth Witnesses Thos Hollingsworth & Mary Hollingsworth
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LondonBelle
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21 Dec 2015 17:19 |
This might already have been posted 1851 census for Henry
Name: Henry Clegg Age: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1792 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Heckmondwike, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Liversedge Ecclesiastical parish: Liversedge Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Gomersal ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 200 Piece: 2323 Folio: 489 Page Number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Henry Clegg 59 occ Blanket Weaver Samuel Clegg 22 occ Book Binder Martha Clegg 19
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LondonBelle
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21 Dec 2015 17:05 |
This might possibly be the Marriage of Samuel c 1791 father of Solomon
Name: Samuel Clegg of Batley Event Date: 18 Apr 1811 Event Type: Marriage Parish: Birstall, St Peter Spouse's Name: Sarah Haigh of Heckmondwike Witnesses Thos Clegg & Joseph Shane (looks like)
With this possible baptism for Solomon
Name: Solomon Clegg Birth Date: 18 Jul 1819 Parish: Birstall, St Peter Baptism Date: 19 Sep 1819 Father: Samuel Clegg occ Clothier Mother: Sarah Clegg Abode Heckmondwike
There is another baptism for a Solomon in 1822 at Dewsbury All Saints but his parents are George & Hannah Clegg
In the 1841 census posted there is a daughter Emmalina perhaps the following is her baptism?
Name: Emma Liley Clegg Birth Date: 5 Oct 1825 Parish: Birstall, St Peter Baptism Date: 1 Jul 1827 Father: Samuel Clegg occ Clothier Mother: Sarah Clegg Abode: Heckmondwike
I suppose there is a good chance that Samuel c 1791 and your Henry Clegg are brothers
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21 Dec 2015 15:17 |
Here I have to suggest a different connection.
The 1841 Census given previously for the Clegg family gives Father as Samuel c.1791 and I believe his marriage is :-
Name Samuel Clegg Spouse's Name Betty Jowett
Event Date 08 Jan 1821 Event Place Bradford, York, England
This fits very nicely with Solomon being born in 1821 ?
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21 Dec 2015 15:04 |
In case you were polishing off Samuel Clegg, someone has added this burial to their tree on Ancestry
Name: Samuel Clegg Death Age: 80 Birth Year: abt 1830 Burial Date: 9 Dec 1910 Parish: Battyeford, Christ the King, Yorkshire, England
Image adds (Son of John) but we're fairly certain from the marriage record that his father was Henry. Abode Narrow Lane, West End.
Probably relates to Name: Samuel Clegg Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Registration Year: 1909 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Dewsbury Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 375
There are quite a few Samuel Cleggs with similar yob and deaths within a short time of each other
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