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Katrina
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28 Nov 2015 10:28 |
Illegitimate son of father John Reid and mother Sally Rhind b 7/1/1837 baptised in Darbreigh, Forfarshire, Scotland. John married Isabella Custard and had at least two children: Jane (30/7/1838) and Eliza ( 11/12/1839). I have tree almost complete from this point on - Hector went to NZ and onto Australia
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28 Nov 2015 10:31 |
Hi Katrina
If you have a comprehensive tree, what is it your are looking for please?
Looks like they had more children
1851 Name:John Reid
Age:45
Estimated birth year:abt 1806
Relationship:Head
Spouse:Isabella Reid
Gender:Male
Where born:Rathven, banff
Parish Number:164
Civil Parish:Rathven
County:Banffshire
Address:Darbriech
Occupation:Farm Of 65 Acres Employing 3 Labourers
ED:15 Page:8 Household schedule number:33 LINE:20 Roll:CSSCT1851_36
John Reid 45 Isabella Reid 43 Hector Reid 14 Jane Reid 12 Elisabeth Reid 11 John Reid 9 Isabella Reid 8 James Reid 5 Ann Reid 5 Charles Reid 3 Elspeth Reid 1 Alex Rennie 25 John Macbain 18 Jane Cruickshank 17 Margaret Mc Curach 15
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greyghost
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28 Nov 2015 10:44 |
Is this the family you refer to - in Banffshire by 1841
Are you wanting to go further back?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Easter Darbriegh, Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place John Reid Male 30 1811 Banffshire, Scotland Isabella Reid Female 30 1811 Scotland Hector Reid Male 4 1837 Banffshire, Scotland Jane Reid Female 2 1839 Banffshire, Scotland Eliza Reid Female 1 1840 Banffshire, Scotland John Reid Male 0 1841 Banffshire, Scotland Elizabeth Downie Female 20 1821 Banffshire, Scotland Jessey Downie Female 15 1826 Banffshire, Scotland
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28 Nov 2015 10:51 |
Name:Isabella Reid Gender:Female Birth Date:6 Aug 1843 Baptism Date:3 Sep 1843 Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland Father:John Reid Mother:Isabella Custar
FHL Film Number:991193
Name:Charles Reid Gender:Male Birth Date:29 Sep 1847 Baptism Date:5 Dec 1847 Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland Father:John Reid Mother:Isabella Custar
FHL Film Number:991193
Name:Elspet Reid Gender:Female Birth Date:10 Aug 1849 Baptism Date:Aug 1849 Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland Father:John Reid Mother:Isabella Custar
FHL Film Number:991193
Name:James Reid Gender:Male Baptism Date:9 Jul 1845 Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland Father:John Reid Mother:Isabella Custar
FHL Film Number:991193
Name:John Reid Gender:Male Baptism Date:19 Apr 1841 Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland Father:John Reid Mother:Isabell Custard FHL Film Number:991193
Ann Reid Gender:Female Baptism Date:9 Jul 1845 Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland Father:John Reid Mother:Isabella Custar
FHL Film Number:991193
I've not added the baptisms of Jane & Eliza as you already have those details
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greyghost
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28 Nov 2015 10:57 |
Possible parents for John Reid baptised Rathven where 1851 census indicates he was born. If 1806 for year of birth is correct then parents could be James Reid and Jean Copland.
These are available on https://familysearch.org/search
John Reid Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 christening: 22 July 1806 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND father: James Reid mother: Jean Copland
John Reid Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 christening: 9 June 1809 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND father: William Reid mother: Isabel Murray
John Reid Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 christening: 2 June 1810 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND father: John Reid mother: Margaret Geddes Don't Spend a Dime With a FamilySearch Account, you'll always have full access. Get a Free Account
John Reid Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 christening: 19 September 1813 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND father: Alexander Reid mother: Lilly Ross
John Reid Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 6 November 1814 christening: 10 November 1814 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND father: Alexander Reid mother: Helen Cowie
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greyghost
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28 Nov 2015 10:59 |
if correct parents - their marriage James Reid mentioned in the record of James Reid and Jean Copland
Name James Reid Spouse's Name Jean Copland Event Date 31 Aug 1805 Event Place Rathven,Banff,Scotland
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greyghost
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28 Nov 2015 11:01 |
Hector's baptism shows in Rathven (not Forfarshire)
Name Hector Reid Gender Male Christening Date 07 Jan 1837 Christening Place RATHVEN,BANFF,SCOTLAND Father's Name John Reid Mother's Name Sally Rhind CITING THIS RECORD
"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY6X-LGD : accessed 28 November 2015), Sally Rhind in entry for Hector Reid, 07 Jan 1837; citing RATHVEN,BANFF,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 991,193.
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greyghost
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28 Nov 2015 11:04 |
?? Sarah Rhind
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Nether Birybads, Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Margt Rhind Female 35 1806 Banffshire, Scotland Sarah Rhind Female 31 1810 Banffshire, Scotland Elisabeth Reid Female 3 1838 Banffshire, Scotland Jane Craig Female 65 1776 Banffshire, Scotland
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Cynthia
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28 Nov 2015 11:41 |
Welcome to the Community boards Katrina.
(I'll let Katrina know how to find her replies) :-)
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 15:27 |
ScotlandsPeople has no birth for a Sally or Sarah Rhind (or variant spelling) anywhere in Scotland 1800-1825
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 15:35 |
Possibly Sally's later marriage - or at least, two dates on which banns were read:
23/10/1845 RHIND SALLY ALEXR. LESLIE/ F RATHVEN /BANFF 164/00 0030 0313
17/11/1845 RHIND SALLY ALEXANDER LESLIE/ F KEITH /BANFF 159/00 0050 0557
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 15:41 |
From FS - I don't see this on Ancestry. This is the same Sarah as that in 1841 posted by Greyghost:
Sarah Rhind Scotland Census, 1851 Name Sarah Rhind Event Type Census Event Date 1851 Gender Female Age 41 Birthplace Banffshire Registration District Keith County Banffshire Birth Year (Estimated) 1810
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 15:43 |
This might be the same record on Ancestry, with surname mistranscribed.
But if so, she must be a different woman from the one who married Alexander Leslie:
Sarah Rheude in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Sarah Rheude Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Portsoy, banffshire Parish Number: 159 Civil Parish: Keith Town: Keith County: Banffshire Address: Mid Street Occupation: Mason's Servant ED: 2 Page: 27 Household schedule number: 132 LINE: 11 Roll: CSSCT1851_35
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 15:46 |
Ancestry's version of the 1841 already posted by Greyghost:
Sarah Rhead
in the 1841 Scotland Census Name: Sarah Rhead [Sarah Rhind] Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Gender: Female Where born: Banffshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Rathven County: Banffshire Address: Nether Birryboels Occupation: Spinster Parish Number: 152 Household Members: Name Age Margt Rhead 35 Sarah Rhead 31 Elizabeth Reid 3 Jane Craig 65 Geo McCunach 35 Jane McCunach 40 Margaret McCunach 10 Jane Marrion 3
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28 Nov 2015 17:39 |
The 1851 as posted by ArgyllGran - Sally can be a form of Sarah - but she is said to be widowed!!
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Mid Street, Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Gillies Head Unmarried Male 44 1807 Mason Keith, Banffshire, Scotland George Gillies Brother Unmarried Male 39 1812 Farm Labourer Keith, Banffshire, Scotland David Gillies Brother Unmarried Male 39 1812 Carpenter Keith, Banffshire, Scotland Margaret Gillies Mother Widow Female 84 1767 Mason's Mother Keith, Banffshire, Scotland Sarah Rhind Servant Widow Female 41 1810 Mason's Servant Portsoy, Banffshire, Scotland ________________________________________
And Margaret Rhind from that 1841 census (niece Elizabeth Reid still with her)
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Buinach, Rathven, Enzie, Banffshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Margaret Rhind Head Unmarried Female 47 1804 Spinner Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland Elesabeth Reid Niece Unmarried Female 13 1838 - Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland
Did John Reid father another child of Sally's or is the Reid surname a coincidence. She is described as niece ????
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Chris Ho :)
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28 Nov 2015 19:45 |
County Banffshire Place Keith Church name Parish Church Register type Marriage date 17 Nov 1845 Groom forename Alexander Groom surname LESLIE Groom parish Keith Bride forename Sally Bride surname RHIND Bride parish Rathven
Baptism County Banffshire Place Rathven Church name Rathven Register type Baptism date 7 Jan 1837 Person forename Hector Person sex M Person abode Darbreigh Father forename John Father surname REID Mother forename Sally Mother surname RHIND Notes Wit: Rev'd Mr Gardiner & Eliza. Innes
(no idea on anything!, but above on below)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Chris :)
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 22:03 |
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Alexander Leslie's death on SP - so the widowed Sarah in 1851 is probably the right person, using her maiden name.
05/10/1847 LESLIE ALEXANDER ----- M KEITH /BANFF 159/00 0050 0687
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alviegal
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28 Nov 2015 22:08 |
You're correct about Elizabeth Reid, greyghost.
Reference No.: NM209813 Surname: REID Forename(s): ELIZABETH Maiden Name: REID Occupation: Date of Birth: 28 JAN 1838 Place of Birth: BOGSHALLOCH RATHVEN Father's Name: JOHN REID BOGSHALLOCH Mother's Name: SARAH RHIND
Info for Sarah.
Reference No.: NM170640 Surname: LESLIE Forename(s): SARAH Maiden Name: RHIND Occupation: Date of Birth: Place of Birth: Father's Name: ALEXANDER RHIND Mother's Name: JANET MCCURACH Biography:
Marriage Details Spouse's Name: ALEXANDER LESLIE Date of Marriage: 18 NOV 1845 Place of Marriage: RATHVEN
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28 Nov 2015 22:12 |
Reference No.: NM163421 Surname: REID Forename(s): JOHN Maiden Name: Occupation: FARMER Date of Birth: c. 1818 Place of Birth: Father's Name: JAMES REID FARMER Mother's Name: JANE COPLAND Biography: LIVED AT BUCKIE & AUCHRASKILL CAITHNESS
Marriage Details Spouse's Name: ISABELLA CUSTER Date of Marriage: 09 SEP 1837 Place of Marriage: RATHVEN Married by: Marriage Narrative: PARENTS OF ISABELLA
Death Details Date of Death: JUL 1878 Age: C. 60 Headstone Ref: Place of Death: BUCKIE
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ArgyllGran
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28 Nov 2015 22:14 |
The McCunach's in Ancestry's 1841 must be maternal relatives, then.
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