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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Nov 2015 20:09
	:-D :-D
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	4 Nov 2015 18:53
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	... almost ... funny though, we just got back from a holiday in China!!
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Nov 2015 18:38
	almost in the far east then :-D
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	4 Nov 2015 14:20
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Gotcha ... I'm three hours the other way. Thanks.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Nov 2015 03:58
	Hi Yvonne ............ I'm about as far west as you can get without swimming :-D Take your time, we found a lot of information, yet some areas are still a mystery.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	4 Nov 2015 03:47
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	I live n Canada too ... you must keep later hours than me!! Have been trying to digest all this information, but there's a lot to take in. Why can't anything be straight forward. Thanks for all this, will get back when I get my head round it.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Nov 2015 01:38
	In 1851, William Tulip was living in Liverpool Street 1851 Census Name: William Tuliss Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne Civil Parish: Eccleston Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Household schedule number: 232 Piece: 2195 Folio: 144 Page Number: 84 John Hays 26 Fillas Hays 20 Mary Hays 3 Mo William Tuliss 28 Widower, Glass maker William Tuliss 6 John Tuliss 4 George Tuliss 27 Address:- Liverpool Street In 1851, Mary Ann and John Joseph were lodging with Richard and Ellen Bolton at 97 Liverpool Road.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	4 Nov 2015 01:28
	to add extra information .... it looks as though Mary Ann Fairclough married a William Tulip ........ 1881 Census Name: John Fairclough Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relationship to Head: Step Son Mother: Mary A. Tulip Gender: Male Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston in Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 63 Eccleston St Occupation: Glass Maker Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 3735 Folio: 102 Page Number: 47 William Tulip 58 b.ca 1823, Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland Mary A. Tulip 51 b.ca 1830, St Helens, Lancashire William Tulip 36 b.ca 1845, Dunbartonshire, Scotland John Fairclough 30 Mary E. Tulip 16 Mary A. Tulip 11 Lancelot Tulip 9 George H. Tulip 7 Patrick Nolan 59 here's their marriage ............. Marriage: 25 May 1851 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England William Tulip - (X), 27, Glass-blower, Widower, Eccleston Mary Ann Fairclough - (X), 21, Servant, Spinster, Eccleston Groom's Father: William Tulip, Glass-blower Witness: Peter Fairclough, (X); Margaret Lawrenson, (X) Married by Banns by: H. Walker Register: Marriages 1845 - 1854, Page 169, Entry 337 Source: LDS Film 1657597 1861 Census Name: William Tulip Age: 38 Estimated birth year: 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Tulip Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Eccleston and Prescot Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 68 Piece: 2750 Folio: 10 Page Number: 13 William Tulip 38 Glass Maker Mary A Tulip 31 b.ca 1830, St Helens, Lancashire William Tulip 16 b.ca 1845, Dunbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland, Apprentice to Glass Making John Tulip 13 b.ca 1848, Glasgow, Scotland John J F Tulip 10 b.ca 1851, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire <<<<< John Joseph Mary Tulip 8 Thomas Tulip 3 James Tulip 2 Robert Tulip 3/12 Address:- 16 Havelock St 1871 Census Name Age William Tulip 47 Mary Ann Tulip 41 William Tulip 26 Johnelovh Tulip 20 <<<<<< this is John Joseph James Tulip 12 Robert Tulip 10 Margt E Tulip 6 Mary Ann Tulip 7 ????? William Tulip's baptism England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: William Tulip Gender: Male Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1822 Baptism Place: All Saints, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England Father: William Tulip Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1068962 Reference ID: item 5 p 63
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	3 Nov 2015 22:44
	Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference FAIRCLOUGH John Joseph Ashton Wigan & Leigh FAIRCLOUGH ASHT/6/392
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	3 Nov 2015 17:56
	Hi Yvonne ................. I live in Canada, so I was on here during our evening hours :-D
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	3 Nov 2015 12:58
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Oh my goodness, have you been up all night at this!!! I've just had a quick read through but will have to read and think it through ... when I'm awake and had breakfast. Thanks so much, I don't know how you do it.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	3 Nov 2015 05:12
	this note is on a Public Family Tree (Hardman Family Tree) on ancestry, for Ellen Marriage to James Fairclough Date and place of marriage unknown but the name James Fairclough is given in Hardman family papers. ------ In 1841, we find Ellen Cheetham with several Fairclough children, living in Standish, Lancashire Ellen Cheetham abt 1781 Lancashire, England Peter Fairclough abt 1816 Lancashire, England, Miner Alice Fairclough abt 1826 Lancashire, England Thomas Fairclough abt 1826 Lancashire, England Mary Ann Fairclough abt 1831 Lancashire, England -------------- These are children shown on lancs-opc with parents James and Ellen Baptism: 19 Sep 1802 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Mary Fairclough - Daur. of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 5 Sep Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 167, Entry 12 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 5 Feb 1804 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England John Fairclough - Son of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 7 Jan Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 174, Entry 2 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 13 Sep 1807 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Alice Fairclough - Daur. of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 23 Aug Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 192, Entry 5 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 13 Aug 1809 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Margaret Fairclough - Daur. of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 3 Aug Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 202, Entry 27 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 1 Sep 1811 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Ellen Fairclough - Daur of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 9 Aug 1811 Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1812, Page 9 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 22 Aug 1813 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England James Fairclough - Son of James Fairclough & Ellen Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: John Kirby Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1822, Page 21, Entry 162 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 21 Apr 1816 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England Peter Fairclough - Son of James Fairclough & Ellen Abode: Hardshaigh Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: T. S. Bowstead Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [85], Entry 680 Source: LDS Film 1469036 Baptism: 20 Sep 1818 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England John Fairclough - Son of James Fairclough & Ellen Abode: Hardshaigh Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: T. Pigot Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [145], Entry 1160 Source: LDS Film 1469036 Baptism: 4 Feb 1821 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Fairclough - Daughter of James Fairclough & Ellen Abode: Hardshaigh Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: T. Pigot Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [209], Entry 1665 Source: LDS Film 1469036 Baptism: 9 Feb 1823 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England Alice Fairclough - Daughter of James Fairclough & Helen Abode: Hardshaw Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: T. Pigot Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [259], Entry 2065 Source: LDS Film 1469036 Baptism: 19 Mar 1826 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England Thomas Fairclough - Son of James Fairclough & Ellen Abode: Hardshaw Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: T. Pigot Register: Baptisms 1824 - 1833 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [49], Entry 388 Source: LDS Film 1469036 This last one is weird ................... Baptism: 30 May 1830 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Mary Ann Fairclough - dau of James Fairclough & Margaret Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Baptised by: E.L. Williams - Curate Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1835, Page 84, Entry 672 Source: LDS Film 1657583 A Mary Ann Fairclough is living with Ellen Cheetham on the 1841 Census, and is with the Richard Bolton and Ellen in 1851, with a baby, John Joseph b.ca 1850. The baptism above is the only one that seems to fit.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	3 Nov 2015 04:38
	On Ellen's marriage to James Cheetham, she says her father was called Peter Hardman, Coal Miner This might be her baptism ......... Baptism: 13 May 1781 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Ellen Hardman - Dr. of Peter Hardman & Margt. Born: 17 Apr Abode: Prescot Occupation: Miner Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 63, Entry 6 Source: LDS Film 1657583
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	3 Nov 2015 04:32
	You have to bear with me for the moment .............. Margaret Dennett's maiden name was Fairclough Margaret was the daughter of James Fairclough and Ellen ........ Baptism: 13 Aug 1809 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Margaret Fairclough - Daur. of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 3 Aug Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 202, Entry 27 Source: LDS Film 1657583 In 1861, Thomas Dennett is living with his grandparents Richard Bolton and Ellen Bolton Ellen (Fairclough) married Richard Bolton England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Richard Bolton Gender: Male Marriage Date: 1 Sep 1847 Marriage Place: Saint Nicholas,Liverpool,Lancashire,England Spouse: Ellen Cheetham FHL Film Number: 93847, 93848, 93849, 93850, 93851, 93852 but there is more information on lancs bmd ........ BOLTON Richard CHEETHAM Ellen Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool 2053LP/17/484 BOLTON Richard HARDMAN Ellen Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool 2053LP/17/484 so Ellen was Ellen Cheetham/Hardman from lancs opc Marriage: 24 Sep 1837 St Luke (formerly St Wilfrid), Farnworth (Widnes), Lancashire, England James Cheetham - (X), full age, Coal miner, Widower, Eccleston Ellen Fairclough - (X), of full age, Widow, Sutton Groom's Father: Benjamin Cheetham, Engineer Bride's Father: Peter Hardman, Coal miner <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Witness: Ralph Platt, (X); Mary Ann Hasleton, (X) Married by Banns by: William Jeff, Minister Register: Marriages 1837 - 1845, Page 9, Entry 18 Source: LDS Film 1655236 Hardman was her maiden name Ellen Hardman married James Fairclough some time before 1809 ...... and I wish I could find the marriage!!!!!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	3 Nov 2015 02:13
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Ann, you might have something there. There is a big gap between Elizabeth b. 1840 and Thomas b. 1848, so maybe Elizabeth was the daughter of James and Elizabeth.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	3 Nov 2015 01:36
	Richard Bolton appears to be a widower with adult children on the 1841 Census. This is him in 1851 with wife Ellen and possible daughter with surname Fairclough ............ EDIT ----- more likely to be granddaughter! . 1851 England Census Name: Richard Bolton Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1778 Relation: Lodger Spouse's Name: Ellen Bolton Gender: Male Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Household schedule number: 219 Piece: 2195 Folio: 142 Page Number: 80 Mary Baxter 26 Jane Baxter 3 Mary Baxter 1 Richard Bridge 24 Margret Bridge 20 Alice Bridge 1 John Corn 40 Jane Corn 36 John Corn 10 Elizabeth Corn 2 Richard Bolton 73 Ellen Bolton 72 Mary Ann Fairlough 21 <<<<<<< it is Fairclough on the image John Joseph Fairlough 7 Mo
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	2 Nov 2015 23:29
	There seems to quite a few Dennetts - all clock or watch makers Maybe the Elizabeth on the1851 was not the daughter of James & Margaret but James and ???? or was born Elizabeth Houghton daughter of John & Margaret
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	2 Nov 2015 22:35
	re that 1861 Census for Thomas, which I had also found, and thought probable. This baptism for Margaret Dennett / Houghton / Fairclough is on lancs-opc Baptism: 13 Aug 1809 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Margaret Fairclough - Daur. of James Fairclough & Ellen Born: 3 Aug Abode: Windle Occupation: Blacksmith Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1809, Page 202, Entry 27 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Possible that Ellen later married Richard Bolton?????
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	2 Nov 2015 22:30
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 902 Send Message	Yes, that's him, as shown on birth cert. mentioned above. The address is shown as 5 Ashton St., Toxteth Park. Thanks.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	2 Nov 2015 22:24
	don't know if you have this, from ancestry ........... England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Thomas Dennett Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Aug 1848 Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1848 Baptism Place: St Patrick, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father: James Dennett Mother: Margaret Fairclough FHL Film Number: 396376 Reference ID: v 3 Unfortunately, I can't see the image to see their address, etc
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

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