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Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Whitehouse Rachel W. Bromwich 6b 825

William Aston didn't marry Lydia Whitehouse till September 1890.

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Asson Rachel Walsall 6b 695

i just could not find rachel 1889 birth can you?

Malyon- the William Aston that married Lydia Whitehouse in 1890 is not the same William and Lydia that have a daughter Rachel on the 1891 census. When the widower, William Aston, marries Lydia Whitehouse in 1890 he gives his abode as Cole Street- so that would be this William:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cole Street, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

William Aston Head Married Male 36 1855 General Labourer Dudley, Worc
Lydia Aston Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Dudley, Worcestershire,
Alfred Aston Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire,
Ernest Aston Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire,
Albert Aston Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire,
Joseph Aston Son - Male 0 1891 - Dudley, Worcestershire,
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As put up previously the William and Lydia with daughter Rachel lived in Rushall in 1891 so are not the same people:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Royal Oak, Rushall, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

William Aston Head Married Male 27 1864 Iron Castor Walsall, Staffordshire,
Lydia Aston Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Rushall, Staffordshire, England
Rachel Aston Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England

i said it was odd that the racheal mentioned in 1891 census because i cant find a birth for that racheal born 1889 was thinking could she be the rachael that angela is looking for and they added a couple of years on her birth date because willian and lydia were only married in 1890 so it could be the william angela is looking for married lydia

1891

Name: R E A
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Patient
Married
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: St Mary and St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Stafford
Registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: County Lunatic Asylum
Piece: 2140 Folio: 114 Page Number: 26

Looks like the above death is correct- she was in an institution in 1890 too- so probably why we can't find her.-

Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912
Name: Rachel E Aston
Gender: Female
Admission Date: 25 Aug 1890
Institution: Stafford
Intitution Place: Staffordshire, England

Not helpful in finding Rachel in 1891 but might be useful:-

the death of Rachel Ellen put up by Malyon earlier is a transcription error on the Volume number. The death place is Northampton:

First name(s) RACHEL ELLEN
Last name ASTON
Gender Female
Birth year 1867
Age 31
Death quarter 2
Death year 1898
District NORTHAMPTON
County Northamptonshire
Volume 3B Page 58

Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912
Name: Rachel E Aston
Gender: Female
Admission Date: 11 Jan 1894
Institution: Berryw'd
Intitution Place: Northamptonshire, England
Death Date: 20 Jun 1898
Death Place: Northamptonshire, England

Shropshire baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Rachel
Last name Newell
Baptism year 1867
Baptism date 04 May 1867
Denomination Anglican
Place Chelmarsh
Father's first name(s) Samuel (occ. Forgeman)
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
(abode, The Forge)

(if her)

Chris :)

edits (just to add these are on 1911 FInd My Past as, William Arton, 81 Clarence Road, Handsworth)

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
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ASTON William Cannock 6b 622
Davis Catherine Cannock 6b 622

Mother Rachel with her family:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Forge Buildings, Chelmarsh, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England
Samuel Newell Head - Male 49 1822 - Shropshire, England
Elenor Newell Wife - Female 45 1826 - Staffordshire, England
Hannah Newell Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Shropshire, England
Selana Newell Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Shifnal Shropshire, England
Rachal Newell Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Chelmarsh Shropshire, England
Mary Jane Newell Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Chelmarsh, Shropshire, England

In 1891 Rachel's family are living at Manor Iron Works, Spring Road, Sedgley- which fits with the address she gave on her marriage certificate.

What is 'odd', as you refer to 1911?, thought Rachel was below...where have you seen another 1911?...


Currell Rachel Ellen 1887 — 1911 Census for England & Wales Handsworth, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Chris :)

edits (who were Witnesses 1910 Marriage, any help from them?)

She had 6 children. Married Albert Frederick Currell nee Albert Street!

did your rachel have 5 children

It is odd. She's still there in 1911 though - my Rachel was married in 1910.

its odd that i cant see a birth for the rachel born 1889 the one in the 1901 census

Hope not Maylon...

Address on the birth certificate (1887) was: 6, Spring Road,Lanesfield. Dudley, Sedgley, Stafford

On the marriage cert. 1910 (William was an iron moulder and also on the aforementioned birth cert too) address was 183 Holyhead Road, Handsworth.

hope this is not him

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William Aston
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name William Aston
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Lydford, Devonshire, England
County Devonshire
Civil Parish Lydford
Ecclesiastical Parish Lydford St Petrock
Sub-District Tavistock
Registration District Tavistock
Gender Male
Age 37
Relationship to Head of Household Convict
Birth Year (Estimated) 1864
Birthplace Birmingham, Warwickshire

Any help with Witnesses on Marriage, or address?...

Chris :)

where was william aston born

Yes, but I can't find any of the family in 1891 or william and the daughter rachel in 1901.