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I'm assuming you're not in contact with Christine?

If you go to Search at the top of this page, then Search All Members' Trees, and enter her name and YOB, you'll get 3 results which are all your Christine, and the tree owner in each case is a Christine - presumably her, or maybe a daughter..

If you click on "Find out more", you can send her a message.

If you look her birth up on FreeBMD, you'll see it says her mother's maiden name was Nelson.
With the page and volume numbers it gives, you can order a copy of the birth cert.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

It should be easy enough to obtain a birth certificate for Christine.

I suspect George's wife was Emily Nelson? I guessed it was Noble but perhaps I was incorrect. I have a passport for Christine Frizzell dob 1952, 24th March Stockton on Tees. Passport issued 2nd March 1967 but unfortunately no parents details. Christine was child 3 of George and Emily.

You can't input a mothers maiden name on Scotlands People to help find births.

The best you can hope for is a list of Frizzell births - any one of which could be "yours"

The info shown will be surname and Christian names, City/County born and the GROS data which would enable you to order the certificate (as in ArgyllGran's post above re George's 1920 birth and EDIT - all those she has posted for the other possibles)

As said before a list of possibles will cost (you or anyone looking for you) 1 credit per page (up to 25 results) but £12 to buy each certificate. If you can visit the Records Office in Scotland a day's entry will cost about £15 and you can look up as much as you have time for and take notes from the more recent certificates but not make copies. If older than the time limits set then 5 credits will let you see the full copy certificates and to download them (again this uses other members own credits).

Alternatively there's this perhaps possible marriage in England - Nelson rather than Noble ??::

Marriages Dec 1951 (>99%)
FRIZZELL George A L MAIRS Durham S.E. 1a 1284
FRIZZELL George A L NELSON Durham S.E. 1a 1284
MAIRS Emily FRIZZELL Durham S.E. 1a 1284
NELSON Emily FRIZZELL Durham S.E. 1a 1284

I don't see the marriage of George to an Emily in Scotland.

There's this marriage ??? You'd have to buy the cert to check the parents' names:

1945 FRIZZELL GEORGE ALEXANDER
STEWART MARTHA
MILTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 0033

Unfortunately it's not possible to use mms as a search term for births after 1854 on ScotlandsPeople, so without any clues such as first names, there's no way of knowing which, if any, of these births are relevant to your family without buying lots of expensive birth certs,.

1910-40 there were 15 other Frizzell births in the same reg district as George's birth, but of course any siblings may not have been born there.
The 1912 birth record for Marion Graham Frizzell can be viewed on SP for a few credits, as it's more than 100 years ago, but the others would require the purchase of the cert:

I don't see the birth of a Clarice Frizzell 1910-40

1917 FRIZZELL CHRISTINA S F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0558

1939 FRIZZELL CHRISTINA S F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0335

1936 FRIZZELL DAVID M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0031

1925 FRIZZELL EVAN M SUTHERLAND M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0532

1939 FRIZZELL FRANCIS M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0036

1924 FRIZZELL HESTER BROWN F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0364

1933 FRIZZELL ISABELLA B F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0275

1940 FRIZZELL MARGARET F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0554

1934 FRIZZELL MARGARET W F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0368

1912 FRIZZELL MARION GRAHAM F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 1117

1937 FRIZZELL MARY DICK MCK F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0914

1922 FRIZZELL PETER SUTHERLAND M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0102

1932 FRIZZELL ROBERT M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0066

1915 FRIZZELL ROBERT BROWN M GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0403

1924 FRIZZELL WILLIAMINA SUTHERLAND F GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0365

Hi ArgyllGran, thank you for your interest in my Grandfather George Frizzell. Yes i'm happy to share any documents I have with George's relatives. The documentation I have pertaining to my grandfather are-

One passport with working visas (Germany/Spain)
Some family photos of himself and his family*
A birth certificate for George
A marriage certificate for George's parents

I am curious if you could also supply any details relating to any siblings George must have had.

Thanks for your interest.

Regards,

Andrew

*on a couple of photos, I know that my mother is featured with George & wife Emily (maiden name Noble?), other siblings Clarice (?) and a son no idea of his name. Would be nice to know who they are really.

In your opening post you say:
" i'm interested in sharing some information with any relatives related to George Frizzell "

Are you looking for info about George, or do you have all his details and just want to share them?

George Frizzell's birth:

1920 FRIZZELL GEORGE ALEXANDER M
GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0989

As for your Scottish Frizzell line. You will need the Scotlands People website which is a Pay as You go site. £7 will buy you 30 credits.

Enter George's details - there is only 1 George Frizzell born between 1918 and 1922 - 1 credit will get you the order details for his birth registration which will then give you his parents names and should have the date and place of their marriage too.

(if you are looking up a more common name 1 credit will get you up to 25 results).

Unfortunately there is a closure period of 100 years for births, 75 years for marriages and 50 years for deaths so you will not see the certificate online but will have to order the certificates at £12 each.

Older than the stated periods and you can actually look at and download copies of the actual certificates and get on to the next generation immediately for the "cost" of 5 credits. So cheap really as you could get 5 older certificates for £7 - bargain!!

You can also look at the Scottish census - other commercial websites have transcripts only 1841-1901 but the 1911 is only on SP.

Some info may be available via the Family Search website I noted earlier tin the thread.

Illegitimacy was far more common than you might think. All it means is that you can only trace back through his mothers side of the family. The only thing you might find would be a Bastardy Bond (google for info), where the mother claimed support from the supposed Father. I think their survival is patchy, but would probably be in the Archives for the area they lived.

Looks as though he went to live with his uncle and family where he can be found on census of 1901 and 1911 aged 7/17.

Follow one line back at a time, proving each generation.

Oh that is not good-
Mother Charlotte Ann Simms b 1876 Brailes, no Father shown. So this is the info for my great great grandfather Frank's parentage....no father shown and Simms being the maiden name of his mother. That would suggest she either didn't marry or had Frank outside of wedlock....that would have been tough back then. I guess that would mean therefore that Simms probably was not the real surname for Frank's parentage. That is really interesting to know even though that does mean a dead end for researching much further back than 3 to 4 generations.

At least now I can see its not an impossible task but one that won't happen with out a bit of research.

It occurred to me today that my plan of 3 generations is actually a bigger project than I had first realised. It may take some time to compile all of the certificates. Just tried doing the maths-

Parents 2 birth certificates & a marriage license
Grandparents 4 birth certificates, 2 marriage licenses, 4 death certificates
Great Grandparents 4 birth certificates, 2 marriage licenses and 4 death certificates.

23 documents to compile. I do have a a few already so will have to chip away at this project.

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription Attach to tree
First name(s) AMANDA MATHILDA
Last name SIMMS
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 11
Birth year 1892
Death quarter 3
Death year 1987
District BEVERLEY
Register number 787
County Yorkshire
Volume 7
Page 44

Order birth, marriage and death certificates from here - £9.25 each -
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates - don't be tempted to order from a commercial site as the cost will soar. Follow the ordering instructions as you go.

Use http://www.freebmd.org.uk to look for bmd's as already suggested. You will find most of what is here on that site.

Another good free site is https://familysearch.org

Simms family tree on Ancestry has

Frank Henry Simms born 1893 Briales, Warwickshire,
(Frank is in Hull on the 1901/1911 census nephew to Head of house)
Mother Charlotte Ann Simms b 1876 Brailes, no Father shown.

His marriage to Amanda Eliasen is noted and the birth of a child in 1927

Charlotte's parents William Simms 1833 b Brailes - d1905 and Mary Holtom b1835 Brailes - d1901

Always check for yourself any of the findings either on here or on Ancestry.

There is a habit on Ancestry of everyone copying everyone else, whatever it says. Children are born before parents etc!!

Thorvald Reinhardsen
mentioned in the record of Thorvald August Reinhardsen
Name Thorvald Reinhardsen
Gender Male
Wife Mathilde Knudsen
Son Thorvald August Reinhardsen
Other information in the record of Thorvald August Reinhardsen
from England Births and Christenings
Name Thorvald August Reinhardsen
Gender Male
Christening Date 18 Mar 1883
Christening Place Hull, York, England
Father's Name Thorvald Reinhardsen
Mother's Name Mathilde Knudsen
CITING THIS RECORD

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," , FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JS6W-NZS : accessed 15 August 2015), Thorvald Reinhardsen in entry for Thorvald August Reinhardsen, 18 Mar 1883; citing Hull, York, England, reference p 11; FHL microfilm 301,002.

They are together at the top of Page 1 of the census enumeration without parents.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
59, St Lukes Street, Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eugene Reinholdson Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Odin Reinholdson Son Single Male 13 1888 - Hull, Yorkshire, England