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Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
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First name(s) A
Last name Reinhartsen
Gender Unknown
Birth year 1863
Birth date 1863
Death year 1887
Death date 13 Sep 1887
Age 24
Reported date 1888
Vessel name Medea
Departure port -
County AT SEA
Series BT 157
Box 0009
Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968

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Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
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First name(s) A
Last name Reinhartsen
Gender Unknown
Birth year -
Birth place Germany
Death year 1887
Death date 13 Sep 1887
Vessel name Medea
Departure port -
Series BT 156
Box 0002
Page 11
Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
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Kerensky i have sent you a pm with the births of frank and amanda's children

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Matilde
Last name Knudson
Name note -
Age 29
Marriage year 1884
Marriage date 06 Sep 1884
Marriage place Hull, York, England
Father's first name(s) Olaf
Father's last name Knudson
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Elias
Spouse's last name Eliasson
Spouse's father's first name(s) Elias
Spouse's father's last name Davidson
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Hull, York, England
Place Hull
County Yorkshire
Country England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Beadle Terrace, Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elias Elison Head Married Male 34 1857 Sailor Sweden Transcription
W A Matilde Elison Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Norway Transcription
Magdalene Elison Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Odin Elison Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England Transcription

Wow so much information here, Reinhartsen? This was a step daughter of my great grandparents? I'll check for the pm. It will be interesting to see if I can get solid records for 3 generations for both my paternal and maternal sides.

I must confess i'm having a right chuckle discovering that I have both Scottish and Nordic ancestry. Could that explain the red hair? :-)

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) MATILDA AMANDA
Last name ELIASON
Birth year 1892
Birth quarter 4
District HULL
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 311

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Yorkshire Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Matilda Amanda
Last name Elias
Birth year 1892
Birth date 10 Nov 1892
Baptism year 1892
Baptism date 14 Dec 1892
Baptism place Hull, St James
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Elias
Mother's first name(s) Matilda
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Archive reference PE 160/5
Page 174
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms

Hi greyhost, thanks the above info, it should hopefully be enough for me to apply to the GRO for my great grandmother's birth certificate-

First name(s) MATILDA AMANDA
Last name ELIASON
Birth year 1892
Birth quarter 4
District HULL
County Yorkshire
Country England

They are together at the top of Page 1 of the census enumeration without parents.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
59, St Lukes Street, Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eugene Reinholdson Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Odin Reinholdson Son Single Male 13 1888 - Hull, Yorkshire, England

Thorvald Reinhardsen
mentioned in the record of Thorvald August Reinhardsen
Name Thorvald Reinhardsen
Gender Male
Wife Mathilde Knudsen
Son Thorvald August Reinhardsen
Other information in the record of Thorvald August Reinhardsen
from England Births and Christenings
Name Thorvald August Reinhardsen
Gender Male
Christening Date 18 Mar 1883
Christening Place Hull, York, England
Father's Name Thorvald Reinhardsen
Mother's Name Mathilde Knudsen
CITING THIS RECORD

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," , FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JS6W-NZS : accessed 15 August 2015), Thorvald Reinhardsen in entry for Thorvald August Reinhardsen, 18 Mar 1883; citing Hull, York, England, reference p 11; FHL microfilm 301,002.

Simms family tree on Ancestry has

Frank Henry Simms born 1893 Briales, Warwickshire,
(Frank is in Hull on the 1901/1911 census nephew to Head of house)
Mother Charlotte Ann Simms b 1876 Brailes, no Father shown.

His marriage to Amanda Eliasen is noted and the birth of a child in 1927

Charlotte's parents William Simms 1833 b Brailes - d1905 and Mary Holtom b1835 Brailes - d1901

Always check for yourself any of the findings either on here or on Ancestry.

There is a habit on Ancestry of everyone copying everyone else, whatever it says. Children are born before parents etc!!

Order birth, marriage and death certificates from here - £9.25 each -
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates - don't be tempted to order from a commercial site as the cost will soar. Follow the ordering instructions as you go.

Use http://www.freebmd.org.uk to look for bmd's as already suggested. You will find most of what is here on that site.

Another good free site is https://familysearch.org

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) AMANDA MATHILDA
Last name SIMMS
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 11
Birth year 1892
Death quarter 3
Death year 1987
District BEVERLEY
Register number 787
County Yorkshire
Volume 7
Page 44

It occurred to me today that my plan of 3 generations is actually a bigger project than I had first realised. It may take some time to compile all of the certificates. Just tried doing the maths-

Parents 2 birth certificates & a marriage license
Grandparents 4 birth certificates, 2 marriage licenses, 4 death certificates
Great Grandparents 4 birth certificates, 2 marriage licenses and 4 death certificates.

23 documents to compile. I do have a a few already so will have to chip away at this project.

At least now I can see its not an impossible task but one that won't happen with out a bit of research.

Oh that is not good-
Mother Charlotte Ann Simms b 1876 Brailes, no Father shown. So this is the info for my great great grandfather Frank's parentage....no father shown and Simms being the maiden name of his mother. That would suggest she either didn't marry or had Frank outside of wedlock....that would have been tough back then. I guess that would mean therefore that Simms probably was not the real surname for Frank's parentage. That is really interesting to know even though that does mean a dead end for researching much further back than 3 to 4 generations.

Illegitimacy was far more common than you might think. All it means is that you can only trace back through his mothers side of the family. The only thing you might find would be a Bastardy Bond (google for info), where the mother claimed support from the supposed Father. I think their survival is patchy, but would probably be in the Archives for the area they lived.

Looks as though he went to live with his uncle and family where he can be found on census of 1901 and 1911 aged 7/17.

Follow one line back at a time, proving each generation.

As for your Scottish Frizzell line. You will need the Scotlands People website which is a Pay as You go site. £7 will buy you 30 credits.

Enter George's details - there is only 1 George Frizzell born between 1918 and 1922 - 1 credit will get you the order details for his birth registration which will then give you his parents names and should have the date and place of their marriage too.

(if you are looking up a more common name 1 credit will get you up to 25 results).

Unfortunately there is a closure period of 100 years for births, 75 years for marriages and 50 years for deaths so you will not see the certificate online but will have to order the certificates at £12 each.

Older than the stated periods and you can actually look at and download copies of the actual certificates and get on to the next generation immediately for the "cost" of 5 credits. So cheap really as you could get 5 older certificates for £7 - bargain!!

You can also look at the Scottish census - other commercial websites have transcripts only 1841-1901 but the 1911 is only on SP.

Some info may be available via the Family Search website I noted earlier tin the thread.

In your opening post you say:
" i'm interested in sharing some information with any relatives related to George Frizzell "

Are you looking for info about George, or do you have all his details and just want to share them?

George Frizzell's birth:

1920 FRIZZELL GEORGE ALEXANDER M
GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW 564/01 0989

Hi ArgyllGran, thank you for your interest in my Grandfather George Frizzell. Yes i'm happy to share any documents I have with George's relatives. The documentation I have pertaining to my grandfather are-

One passport with working visas (Germany/Spain)
Some family photos of himself and his family*
A birth certificate for George
A marriage certificate for George's parents

I am curious if you could also supply any details relating to any siblings George must have had.

Thanks for your interest.

Regards,

Andrew

*on a couple of photos, I know that my mother is featured with George & wife Emily (maiden name Noble?), other siblings Clarice (?) and a son no idea of his name. Would be nice to know who they are really.