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11 Aug 2015 22:53 |
Emily is at home in Frome in 1851 Grope Lane Frome and 1861 Wiltshire Buildings Frome with her family. After that I CANNOT positively identify where she is. I find no death that fits after that.. and I have checked best I can for mispellings [often with this name] for other marriages, and discounted them...as I found suitable birth names to match.
I have traced most of her siblings, and aunts, and she is not at home with them.
I cannot find a baptism for her in Frome, but her birth ref. seems sure, between two siblings, and matching census.
Suitable marriages might be Emily Brimson, Warminster, Wilts 1869 to Parson or Haines. Charles Hansford Parsons seems to have a baptism in 1849 at Witham Friary, which gives his age.
She is not Emily LOUISE Brimson married in 1878 to Edward Densham, as her father is STATED as Edward Brimson.
There is an Emily Brimson marriage in 1885,1886, but I CANNOT find her in 1871 and 1881.
Any ideas, help please.
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11 Aug 2015 22:59 |
Emily Brimson England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name Emily Brimson Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year 1849 Registration District Frome County Somerset Event Place Frome, Somerset, England Volume 10 Page 361 Line Number 1
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11 Aug 2015 23:02 |
Marriages Dec 1846 Brimson Richard Frome 10 621 Norris Susan Frome 10 621
Name: Emily Brimson
Registration Year:1849 Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Frome Inferred County:Somerset
Volume:10 Page:361
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11 Aug 2015 23:05 |
1861
Richard Brimson 37 Susan Brimson 30 Emily Brimson 11 Frank Brimson 10 Ann Brimson 8 Richard Brimson 5 Sophia Brimson 4 Agnes Brimson 5/12 William Brimson 38
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11 Aug 2015 23:11 |
1871
Name: Emily Parsons
Age:21 Estimated birth year:abt 1850
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Charles H Parsons
Where born:Frome, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:Rodden Ecclesiastical parish:Rodden County/Island:Somerset
Charles H Parsons 21 - Witham Friary, Somerset Emily Parsons 21
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Gillikins
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12 Aug 2015 00:08 |
Thank you folks, this is the parents, So it looks like the correct marriage. I don't know why I could not find the 1871 census. I will try to trace her history now, and possibly any children.
Is it possible to use Genes Census search, searching with others in the household? How?
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12 Aug 2015 01:11 |
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BRIMSON Emily Warminster 5a 285 Parsons Charles Handsford Warminster 5a 285
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12 Aug 2015 06:34 |
1871: 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hallmead, Rodden, Frome, Somerset, England Charles H Parsons Head - Male 21 1850 - Somerset, England Emily Parsons Wife - Female 21 1850 - Somerset, England ------------------------------------------------------------------
1881: Name: Emily Parsons Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relationship to Head: Servant (Employee) Gender: Female Where born: Frome, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Wimbledon County/Island: Surrey Street address: 28 High Street Marital Status: Married Occupation: Cook Dom Registration district: Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Piece: 829 Folio: 35 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age John S. Amoore 30 Fanny S. Amoore 33 Edward J. Amoore 4 Gertrude Amoore 3 Maud S. Amoore 2 Emily Parsons 33 Elizabeth Pearce 19
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Chris Ho :)
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12 Aug 2015 07:28 |
Baptism County Somerset Place Frome Church Workhouse Pr RegisterNumber DateOfBirth 10 May 1851 BaptismDate Forename Emily Sex F FatherForename MotherForename Susan MotherSurname BRIMSON Abode Frome, C.F FatherOccupation Notes Illegitimate; registered Jun 4 1851
Baptism County Somerset Place Frome Church Holy Trinity Pr RegisterNumber 694 BaptismDate 07 Nov 1852 Forename Emily FatherForename MotherForename Susan FatherSurname MotherSurname BRIMSON Abode Naish St
County Somerset Place Frome Church Badcox Lane Baptist Pr RegisterNumber 92 MarriageDate 03 Nov 1846 GroomForename Richard GroomSurname BRIMSON GroomOccupation Shoemaker BrideForename Susan BrideSurname NORRIS
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(not sure on above!)
Chris :)
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
BRIMSON Emily PARSONS Charles H Corsley, St Margaret of Antioch History Centre C9/1/291
http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
edits
(Baptism above perhaps below Birth, of Susan Brimson, 1851 Brimson Susan 1834 Frome, Somerset. Unmarried. Servant)
Births Jun 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------- Brimson Emily Frome 10 424
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Burial County Somerset Place Shepton Mallet Church St Peter and Paul Pr RegisterNumber 1386 BurialDate 03 May 1851 Forename Emily Surname BRIMSON Age 8m Abode Union
Deaths Jun 1851 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- Brimson Emily Shepton Mt 10 325 BRIMSON Emily Shepton Mallet 11 325
(must be below for Burial then!)
Births Sep 1850 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Brimson Emily Shepton Mallet 10 440
http://wsom-opc.org.uk/index.php?id=36
(if anything on above, Somerset)
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12 Aug 2015 08:22 |
Charles Parsons in the 1881 England Census Name:Charles Parsons Age:34 Estimated birth year:abt 1847 Gender:Male Where born:Witham Friary, Somerset, England Civil Parish:Whatley County/Island:Somerset Country:England Street address:Chapple and Chapple House Marital Status:Married Occupation:Ag Lab Registration district:Frome
Ernest Farnell 28 Selina Farnell 28 Joseph Farnell 3 Mary Farnell 1 Charles Parsons 34 (Brother) Herbert Parsons 3 (Son of Brother) Joseph Parsons 57 (Father of Brother)
Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%) Furnell Ernest Frome 5c 783 Parsons Selina Mary A Frome 5c 783
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Chris Ho :)
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12 Aug 2015 08:40 |
County Somerset Place Frome Church Holy Trinity Pr RegisterNumber 137 MarriageDate 17 Apr 1876 GroomForename Ernest GroomSurname FURNELL GroomAge 23 GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation Farm Labourer GroomAbode Critchill BrideForename Selina Mary Ann BrideSurname PARSONS BrideAge 23 BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation Folder BrideAbode Critchill GroomFatherForename William GroomFatherSurname FURNELL GroomFatherOccupation Farm Labourer deceased BrideFatherForename Joseph BrideFatherSurname PARSONS BrideFatherOccupation Farm Labourer WitnessOneForename Joseph WitnessOneSurname PARSONS WitnessTwoForename Sarah Elizabeth WitnessTwoSurname HOLDEWAY Notes Banns
(reference to Baptism mentioned below)
County Somerset Place Witham Friary Church St Mary the Virgin Pr RegisterNumber 676 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 30 Dec 1849 Forename Charles Hansford FatherForename Joseph MotherForename Mary FatherSurname PARSONS Abode Witham FatherOccupation Labourer
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PricklyHolly
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12 Aug 2015 08:54 |
I think the son Herbert's birth was registered as Francis Herbert Parsons......
Francis Herbert Parsons in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Francis Herbert Parsons Registration Year:1877 Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun Registration district:Frome Inferred County:Somerset Volume:5c Page:515
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Herbert Parsons in the 1891 England Census Name:Herbert Parsons Age:14 Estimated birth year:abt 1877 Relation:Pauper (Institutional) Gender:Male Where born:Witham Friary, Somerset, England Civil Parish:Frome Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch Town:Frome County/Island:Somerset Country:England
Registration district:Frome
ED, institution, or vessel:Frome Union Workhouse
Herbert Parsons 14
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PricklyHolly
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12 Aug 2015 09:04 |
Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%) Parsons Herbert Francis Kingston 2a 916 UPSHELL Ellen Jane Kingston 2a 916
Herbert Francis Parsons in the 1911 England Census Name:Herbert Francis Parsons Age in 1911:31 Estimated birth year:abt 1880 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Frome, Somerset, England Civil Parish:Wimbledon
County/Island:Surrey Country:England Street address:197 Southpark Rd, Wimbledon Marital Status:Married Years Married:6 Estimated Marriage Year:1905 Occupation:Warehouse Machine Textile Cotton Registration district:Kingston Registration District Number:40 Sub-registration district:Wimbledon
Household Members:
Herbert Francis Parsons 31 Ellen Jane Parsons 28 Charles Herbert Frederick Parsons 5 Edward George Samuel Parsons 3 Months 3 Weeks
Francis Herbert Parsons in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name:Francis Herbert Parsons Probate Date:27 Feb 1951 Death Date:28 Jan 1951 Death Place:London, England Registry:London, England
Francis Herbert otherwise Herbert Francis of 197 South Park Road, Wimbledon, London. To Ellen Jane Parsons widow
Effects: £555 7s 3d
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12 Aug 2015 09:05 |
(correct there PH!, lol, spent too long in 'Somerset', sat at me chair here this morning, getting out now!, see ya later!)
Chris :)
Baptism County Somerset Place Frome Church Christ Church Pr RegisterNumber 85 DateOfBirth 22 Apr 1877 BaptismDate 21 Apr 1878 Forename Francis Herbert FatherForename Charles Hansford MotherForename Emily FatherSurname PARSONS MotherSurname Abode No Butts FatherOccupation Labourer Notes Easter Day
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Gillikins
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12 Aug 2015 09:06 |
Thanks Gritty, so she is living apart from hubby? Chris's research.. Thanks for effort.. Sorry didn't mention that other Susan and her child before in workhouse.. She was some sort of cousin, and not Susan wife of Richard, although her child was also Emily.
Thanks for 1881.. See now my problem. Charles appears to be living with his sister ??? And his father Joseph too. And there is a 3 year old son. Brilliant!
They must have been desperate, poor things. Emily's mother died in1860 or 70 I forget, doesn't matter, and her dad lived until 1905. He married again in the 1870s.
Thank you thank you...
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PricklyHolly
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12 Aug 2015 09:13 |
Have a nice day Chris. :-)
Prickles. x
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Gillikins
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12 Aug 2015 09:16 |
Brilliant help, thanks, thanks.
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PricklyHolly
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12 Aug 2015 09:26 |
I just need to get out of my onesie and I will be back.
:-D
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12 Aug 2015 09:49 |
I am trying to find Herbert/Francis in the 1901 census.... but not having any luck so far.
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12 Aug 2015 10:47 |
Charles Herbert Frederick Parsons in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name:Charles Herbert Frederick Parsons Gender:Male Baptism Date:10 Jun 1906 Baptism Place:Wimbledon, Surrey, England Father: Herbert Francis Parsons Mother: Ellen Jane Parsons FHL Film Number:2262125 Reference ID:48 p36
Births Jun 1906 (>99%) Parsons Charles Herbert F Kingston 2a 404
Births Mar 1911 (>99%) Parsons Edward G S Kingston 2a 401
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