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31 Jul 2015 23:09 |
Maybe for John?
1901
Census Years1901CavanKnappaghMullybrackResidents of a house Residents of a house 3 in Mullybrack (Knappagh, Cavan)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Finegan Peter 30 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Finegan Mary 25 Female Wife Roman Catholic Finegan Patrick 2 Male Son Roman Catholic Finegan Thoman 1 Male Son Roman Catholic Monaghan John 20 Male Farm Servant Roman Catholic
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Kate
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1 Aug 2015 11:15 |
my father was james monaghan married to marion mc lean,, his father was john monahan/monaghan he was married to catheine mulligan and john's brother was Bernard, altho it seems there were more brothers but i don't have any info on them...
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1 Aug 2015 13:37 |
Kate. can you clarify did John (your grandfather) go out to the US to join the brothers..?
There is quite a bit of info.supplied on the thread so far relating to a Monahan/Monaghan family from Gallon ( RC Parish Denn ) Co.Cavan.....
The parents of John Monaghan who married Catherine Mulligan were Patrick Monahan and Anne Galligan (Gritty 31.July)...
The Galligans were certainly from the Gallon/ Denn area of Co.Cavan the Monahans were probably from one of the surrounding Townlands.
Patrick and Anne Monahan 1901/1911 Census Gallon Co Cavan appear to be the parents of the Monahans you are looking for. Patrick the eldest child of Patrick Monahan and Anne Galligan... Was Baptised June 2 1872 at the RC Chapel Parish of Denn sponsors were Michael Galligan and Susan Cusack. There is a marriage for 8thJuly 1870 of a Pat.....and Anne Galligan witnesses..Peter Caine and Daphne Galligan unfortunately the PP must have been on the Poteen as he has not listed the Grooms surname and has the following notation under Daphne Galligans' name ..(I Think) !!!... Was rather amused at that...!!!
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Kate
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1 Aug 2015 16:28 |
hi Eringobragh,
yes this is what i've been told..... my dad was born in 1909 he was 9yrs old when his dad died in usa around the 1920's....x
your quote : There is quite a bit of info.supplied on the thread so far relating to a Monahan/Monaghan family from Gallon ( RC Parish Denn ) Co.Cavan.....
where is this thread please... i can't find it !!!
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Eringobragh1916
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1 Aug 2015 21:12 |
Kate ...Its on this thread page 1 ...supplied by Gritty.....
Bernard (Barney) went out to the US ?? when then James and Patrick followed in 1899 on the Teutonic. Barney married a Hannah Barrett in Silver Bow Montana 1913...she was a widow and her parents names were James O'Brien and Ann Sullivan ..Hannah was b Boston Mass.I think she may have died in 1914 as I have found a Death notice for a Hannah Monahan Butte Mt.1914 and a Barney Monahan is listed a lodger on the 1920 census Butte Mt. aged 44 and single
So far you have Barney James Patrick and John going to the US.. On the 1901/1911 Census for Gallon is a Michael Monahan/Monaghan so there is 5 out of a possible 6 bros. accounted for...
Residents of a house 1 in Gallon Glebe (Moynhall, Cavan)
Monaghan Patrick 50 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Cavan Farmer Cannot read or write - Married - Monaghan Anne 48 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Cavan Farmers Wife Can read and write - Married - Monaghan Annie 17 Female Daughter Monaghan Maggie 10 Female Daughter Monaghan Michael 7 Male Son
If you compare this one with the 1911 you will find major discrepancies with the info re.ages...so its difficult to work out which is correct.
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Eringobragh1916
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1 Aug 2015 21:25 |
??? Barney Monahan
Name Barney Monahan Event Type Census Event Year 1920 Event Place Butte Ward 5a, Silver Bow, Montana, United States Gender Male Age 44 Marital Status Single Race White Race (Original) White Can Read Yes Can Write Yes Relationship to Head of Household Roomer Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Roomer Birth Year (Estimated) 1876 Birthplace Ireland Immigration Year 1897 Father's Birthplace Ireland Mother's Birthplace Ireland
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Kate
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2 Aug 2015 12:19 |
Hi rootgather,
thanks for your reply.... your quote >> You say you have a Laurence Mulligan married to Ann McGuire, any idea where you got the information from please?
i got this info from a woman called margo mc manus from hamilton lanarkshire she said her hubby's gg/mother alice was my gran catheine mulligan's sister... and laurence was their brother... she also said their was two Laurence's born 1883 & 1863 one of them died in child birth she said !!!
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Kate
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2 Aug 2015 12:24 |
Hi Gritty.... i don't understand was these names printed below related to john monaghan ?
John 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 53, Castle Street, Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Campbell Head Married Male 40 1861 Water Inspector Strathaven, Lanarkshire Catherine Campbell Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Stonehouse, Lanarkshire, Daniel Campbell Son - Male 14 1887 Railway Engine Stoker Auchenheath, Lanarkshire, John Campbell Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar Auchenheath, Lanarkshire, Scotland Hugh Campbell Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Catherine Campbell Daughter - Female 7 1894 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Susan Campbell Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Peter Campbell Son - Male 3 1898 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland Henry Carty Nephew Single Male 18 1883 Coal Miner Strathaven, Lanarkshire, John Carty Nephew Single Male 16 1885 Pony Driver In Coal Mine Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Hugh Carty Nephew - Male 6 1895 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland Annie Carty Niece - Female 9 1892 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland John Monahan Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Coal Miner Ireland James McCormick Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Railway Labourer Ireland Edward McCormick Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Labourer At Coal Pit Head Ireland
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Aug 2015 12:34 |
Kate ....It only relates insomuch as there is a John Monahan listed as lodging there in 1901..
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2 Aug 2015 12:38 |
Kate ..Did Catherine stay in Scotland when John went to the US....?
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Kate
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2 Aug 2015 12:43 |
yes she lived in 2 castlechimmins ave halfway... when she died in 1970 her daughter Bridget lived there till she died in Dec.1983 ....
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Aug 2015 13:27 |
Kate...In case you don't have details ...
Patrick Mulligan married Brid. Devine 6th October 1862 Avondale.
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2 Aug 2015 13:39 |
Kate...
1851 but not 1841 Census shows...
Pathfoot Harts Land Avondale
Mulligan Lawrence 38yrs b Ireland. Drainer Mulligan Allice 40yrs.b.Ire. Mulligan Mary 12yrs.b Ire. Mulligan Pat.10yrs.b Ire. Mulligan Catherine 1 yr.b Strathaven
There is a big gap between Pat and Catherine so there may have been other children who were born and perhaps died ....
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Kate
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2 Aug 2015 13:56 |
this is what i have in my tree....
great grandparents patrick mulligan & bridget divine
their kids were laurence 1863-1863 mary 1865-1882 rose 1867 -1870 alice 1868 -1949 c elly 1869-1869 elizabeth 1871-1871 james 1872-1872 bridget 1873-1946 daniel 1879-1941 catheine 1881 -1970 my grandmother laurence 1883-1883 c
those details were given to me by margo mc manus who's husband was alice's gg/ grand son.... !!! as you can see i don't have a son patrick listed ?? very confusing.... lol x
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Gritty
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2 Aug 2015 15:03 |
But Patrick and Bridget did have a son Patrick- he's listed with his Mum on the 1881 and 1901 census, born c1877 Strathaven. I put details of those census on page 1.
Patrick, husband of Bridget, died in 1912 Strathaven. On his death certificate (on scotlandspeople) he is listed as the widower of Bridget Devine and his parents are listed as Lawrence Mulligan, labourer (deceased) and Alice Mulligan (deceased- maiden name McGuire). His son PATRICK registered the death.
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2 Aug 2015 15:09 |
This looks to be Patrick with his parents in 1851:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pathfoot Harts Land, Middle Ward, Lanarkshire, Scotland Lawrance Mulligan Head Married Male 38 1813 Drainer Ireland Allice Mulligan Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Ireland Mary Mulligan Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Ireland Patrick Mulligan Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Ireland Catherine Mulligan Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire, William Reynolds Lodger Unmarried Male 20 1831 Drainer Ireland James Delamore Lodger Unmarried Male 20 1831 Drainer Ireland James Gilully Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1830 Drainer Ireland John Rennie Lodger Unmarried Male 25 1826 Drainer Ireland James Corkle Lodger Unmarried Male 25 1826 Drainer Ireland
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Kate
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2 Aug 2015 15:39 |
oki doki gritty thank you again :-) x
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Gritty
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2 Aug 2015 16:20 |
Baptism for Michael (John's brother)
Church Baptism Record Name: Michael Monaghan Date of Birth: 05-Oct-1893 Date of Baptism: 08-Oct-1893 Address: Gallon Parish/District: DENN Gender: Male County Co. Cavan Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Patrick Monaghan Mother: Anne Galligan
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Kate
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2 Aug 2015 20:00 |
i would like to thank everyone who has helped me so far.... you are amazing :-) x
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Kate
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13 Aug 2015 20:02 |
hi all, done some searching on the above info you've gave me thank you all..... :-D :-D :-D
i keep getting pathfoot walter browns house in strathaven, i tried a google search for it, but nothing came up !!!! wondering what on earth it could be ? a community home or hostel maybe .... I dunno !!!!
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