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edith mary and james derricutt (twins)

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 29 Jun 2015 13:13

It may be worth contacting the Cheshire Archives as that is where Winwick records are kept. I see that a death can't be found as yet, but the records may hold a clue. There were some inmates who were buried in the grounds apparently. :-(

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2015 06:52

it sounds awful, I know ........... but sometimes people back then put "damaged" babies into care and then paid no more attention to them.


but I can't find James anywhere else, I can't see a death for him on freebmd from 1911 to 1965

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2015 06:50

and they appear together on the image.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2015 06:49

well, they certainly appear together on the Index to GRO


Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Derricutt Edith Mary Ellesmere 6a 663
Derricutt James Ellesmere 6a 663


I'm just checking the image :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2015 05:58

Well on the 1911 census dad has said 7 children born all living and listed 7 children
which doesn't include a James !

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2015 05:47

I would now suggest looking for a death much later to see if he turns up

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2015 05:46

no sign of James on those censuses, I did check before searching under his initials.

I also checked for mis=spellings.

No sign of him either on Public Family trees


which is why I tried the initials only route.

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 29 Jun 2015 05:42

Also worth considering that there are lots of possible spelling variants for the surname!
Darricutt, Dorricutt, Derricut, Darricott...........

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 29 Jun 2015 05:39

And Edith in 1911:


Edith Mary Derricutt

England and Wales Census, 1911

Name: Edith Mary Derricutt
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
County: Shropshire
Parish: Wigland
Sub-District: Malpas
Registration District: Whitchurch
Gender: Female
Age: 12
Birthplace: Ellemere, Shropshire
Record Type: Household

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 29 Jun 2015 05:38

This appears to be Edith Mary in 1901. Maybe somebody with access could kindly look up the full transcript to give you other pointers to search forward:



Edith M Derricutt

England and Wales Census, 1901

Name: Edith M Derricutt
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Wigland (Cheshire), Shropshire, England
County: Shropshire
Civil Parish: Wigland (Cheshire)
Ecclesiastical Parish: Malpas St Oswalds
Sub-District: Malpas
Registration District: Whitchurch
Gender: Female
Age: 2
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Ellismere, Salop
Schedule Type: Household

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2015 05:35

could this be him??????????

1911 Census

Name: J D
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Patient (Institutional)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Unknown, Unknown, Unknown
Civil Parish: Winwick
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Warrington
Registration District Number: 459
Sub-registration district: Winwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 23123

There is a note in the last column "imbecile at birth"

It is the County Lunatic Asylum, Winwick, Warrington, Lancs.

There are over 1200 patients in there, from babies to elderly

It's always worth remembering that people in asylums, hospitals, prisons, etc are quite often shown only by their initials

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Jun 2015 01:54

trying to find what happened to James . I am unable to find a marriage or a death for him. the twins were born in Ellesmere Shropshire in 1898 , anyone any ideas ?