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Sarah Allcock is a single person in 1861

have tried a basic search for a William Allcock shopkeeper -- not
found a suitable one as of yet -- will try again

1st child was called William -- could William shopkeeper have been married
to some one else ??

Mavis

Ops sorry both just re read the messages received and find that Sarah is a widower on 1881 census so she did wed into the Allcock name. So what was her maiden name I ask.
Could it be possible to recheck the name Dean out so see if that relates to her. Or did she automatically take the name Allcock.
This woman is a mystery and where did William Allcock (shopkeeper) originate from and where was he born?
I know I am asking all these question to which I can try and find myself but just asking the questions in general.

well Mavis and Gritty have to thank you.
Gritty well that has surprised me (perhaps I didn't look closely enough) on Williams father a shopkeeper. I knew of the marriage to Jane.
Mavis, so this has definitely clarified that Joseph and William were brothers to which I had gathered info on that side and I believe there were more siblings.
NOW - can I ask your goodselves if you could do a search on trying to find any info on William the shopkeeper i.e.1841 1851 census to see if that brings anything up. Thought sarah was a single mom in having all these children I didn't think she wed into the Allcock name - what are your thoughts on this. I do greatly appreciated your recent searches and any further info you can find.
Just a note for your Gritty, some months back you helped me find a relation to which the family hadn't heard/seen for over 40 years well the good news is he is travelling to UK in September and there is a tremendous family gathering - so once again thanks for that.

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: Joseph Allcock
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1861
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1882
Marriage Age: 21
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Lucy Cook
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 20
Father: William Allcock- Shopekeeper Deceased<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Father: Thomas Edward Cook
Reference Number: DRO 9
Archive Roll: 607
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Marriage
Name: William Allcock
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1859
Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1885
Marriage Age: 26
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Jane Powell
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 25
Father: William Allcock- Shopkeeper- deceased
Spouse's Father: William Powell
Reference Number: DRO 9
Archive Roll: 607

1851 census
Name:
Sarah Alcock

Age:
11

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1840

Relation:
Servant (Employee)

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Redditch, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish:
Redditch

County/Island:
Worcestershire

Country:
England


Registration district:
Bromsgrove

Sub-registration district:
Bromsgrove

ED, institution, or vessel:
4f


Household schedule number:
59

Piece:
2047

Folio:
795

Page Number:
17

Household Members

William Field 30
Harriett Field 29
Thomas Field 7
Sarah Alcock 11


might be a better candidate for your Sarah

there is also on the same page

Thomas Allcock 73y
Nancy Allcock 67y
George Terry 16y gr son

Mavis

yes agree Mavis. I m wondering if she could have wed someone else previously. She had a lodger of Jones with her on one census.
Will have to keep trying to find her background

think about the fact that Sarah hasn't named a child Charles - which she may well
have done if father was a Charles -- having a Joseph high in the names of children
could be a good clue.

It would be good if you find a Marriage for her then you should know about her father.

Mavis

Thanks Mavis, I don't know why but I keep thinking a link to the Charles side of the family.
thanking you all.

:-) :-) :-) :-)

1851 census


Name:
Sarah Ann Allenke [ this is Allcock]

Age:
11

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1840

Relation:
Daughter (Child)

Father's name:
Charles Allenke

Mother's name:
Sarah Allenke

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Studley, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish:
Studley

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County/Island:
Warwickshire

Country:
England


Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:



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Registration district:
Alcester

Sub-registration district:
Studley

ED, institution, or vessel:
4c

Neighbors:
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Household schedule number:
121

Piece:
2075

Folio:
57

Page Number:
31

Household Members:


Name

Age


Charles Allenke 40
Sarah Allenke 40
William Allenke 13
Sarah Ann Allenke 11
Joseph Allenke 9
Julia Allenke 4


Mavis

thanks everyone , will try and find her marriage to a Dean.

from 1841 in Feckenham Worcs.


Name:
Joseph Allcock

Age:
35

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1806

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish:
Feckenham

Hundred:
Halfshire (Upper Division)

County/Island:
Worcestershire

Registration district:
Alcester

Sub-registration district:
Feckenham

Neighbors:
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Piece:
1197

Book:
2

Folio:
9


Joseph Allcock 35
Joseph Allcock 16
Reback Allcock 37
Mary Allcock 19
James Allcock 13
John Allcock 10
Elizabeth Allcock 8
Sarah Allcock 2
Sarah Allcock 78
Samuel Robinson 25

this is more than likely your Sarah -- she is a servant 11y in 1851 as Alcock

The Sarah with Charles 1841 is a Sarah Ann she went on to marry a William Lamb
.@1867
Charles and wife Sarah both aged 70 y are living with her in 1881 in Studley

Joseph Allcock = Rebecca Robins 8th April 1822 St Bartholomew - Tardebigg
Worces.

Mavis

Wondering if this might be her?


Deaths Mar 1901
Allcock Sarah 58 King's N. 6c 272

or


Deaths Jun 1891
Dean Sarah 51 Aston 6d 315


I guess only the death certificate(s) will rule them in or out

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Alma Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Allcock Head Married Male 28 1863 Brass Founder Warwickshire, England
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Lucy Allcock Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Lilly Allcock Daughter Single Female 8 1883 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Lucy Allcock Daughter Single Female 1 1890 - Aston, Warwickshire, England
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Sarah Dean Mother Married Female 53 1838 Dressmaker Warwickshire, England

On the 1891 census she is calling herself 'Dean'


Name:Sarah Dean Dressmaker

Age:53

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1838

Relation:Mother

Gender:Female

Where born:Leamington, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish:Aston

Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul

Town:Aston

County/Island:Warwickshire

Registration district:Aston

Sub registration district:Aston Manor

ED, institution, or vessel:21

Piece:2431
Folio:25
Page Number:8

Household Members:


Joseph Allcock 28
Lucy Allcock 29
Lilly Allcock 8
Lucy Allcock 1
Sarah Dean 53

thanks to you all but had most of the information. Last week was able to have a day freebie on ancestry and found something but not sure if relates to my own search.
Couldn't understand why no wife with Charles on 1841 census but then appeared on 1851 census.
For some reason came across some criminal info and the dates corresponded in as that there probably was an elder Sarah (wife of Charles) who held a couple of criminal offences!!!!
Just would like info on Sarah 1839/40 to whom she wed or when she died and where.
thanking you

If her Father was Charles (Re: the 1841 census I posted)

??

Charles Allcock in the 1861 England Census

Name:Charles Allcock
Age:50
Estimated Birth Year:1811
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Male
Where born:Redditch, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish:Kings Norton
Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul
County/Island:Worcestershire
Country:England
Registration district:Kings Norton
Sub-registration district:Kings Norton


Household Members:

Ann Dedicout 54
Richard Mitchell 60
Titus Forrest 55
Charles Allcock 50 (Needle Maker)

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
62, Kenion Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sarah Allcock Head Widow Female 42 1839 Dress Maker Redditch, Worcestershire, England
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Joseph Allcock Son Single Male 18 1863 Brass Founder Leamington, Warwickshire, England
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Thomas Allcock Son Single Male 16 1865 Brass Founder Leamington, Warwickshire, England
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Alfred Allcock Son Single Male 8 1873 - Leamington, Warwickshire, England

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Satchwell Street, Leamington, Warwick, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sarah Allcock Head - Female 32 1839 - Warwickshire, England
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William Allcock Son - Male 12 1859 - Warwickshire, England
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Joseph Allcock Son - Male 8 1863 - Warwickshire, England
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Thomas Allcock Son - Male 6 1865 - Warwickshire, England
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Edwin Jones Lodger - Male 32 1839 - Cheshire, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Kenilworth Street, Leamington Priors, Warwick, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sarah Allcock Lodger Unmarried Female 21 1840 Needlewoman -
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William Allcock Son - Male 1 1860 - Leamington, Warwickshire, England