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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Jun 2015 15:40 |
Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) Emily Mary Last name Conroy Name note - Age 25 Marriage year 1898 Marriage date 04 Jan 1898 Marriage place St. Paul'S, Elswick, Northumberland, England Father's first name(s) Peter Father's last name Conroy Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) William John Spouse's last name Rutherford Spouse's father's first name(s) James Spouse's father's last name Rutherford Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Elswick, Northumberland, England Place Elswick County Northumberland Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 70, Prospect Place, Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England William John Rutherford Head Married Male 25 1876 Provision Warehouseman Lowick, Northumberland, England
Emily Mary Rutherford Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Aldershot, Hampshire, England
Margaret Rutherford Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 128 Stone Street Newcastle-Upon- Tyne, Westgate, Northumberland, England Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Northumberland Lowick William John Rutherford Head Married Male 35 1876 Provision Warehouseman Hampshire Aldershot Emily Mary Rutherford Wife Married Female 38 1873 - Northumberland Newcastle Margaret Rutherford Daughter - Female 12 1899 School Northumberland Newcastle James William Rutherford Son - Male 10 1901 School Northumberland Newcastle Jessie Rutherford Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Northumberland Newcastle Alfred Rutherford Son - Male 2 1909 - Northumberland Newcastle Elsie Rutherford Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Haddington Keith Hill Margaret Rutherford Mother Widow Female. 75 1836 Married 14 years 5 children born all living Living in 4 rooms
First name(s) EMILY M Last name RUTHERFORD Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1874 Age 81 Death quarter 1 Death year 1955 District NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE County Northumberland Volume 1B Page 17 Country England
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10 Jun 2015 16:03 |
Going back to the Conroy family are Patrick and Peter the same person??
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10 Jun 2015 16:05 |
Oops, Chris........missed that!
So the birth year was a complete guess, and not based on any documentary evidence.
And he hadn't gone far in 1911........!
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10 Jun 2015 16:12 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 17, York Street, Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Patrick Conroy Head Married Male 37 1844 Ex Soldier Bradford, Yorkshire, England Transcription Hannah Conroy Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription Alfred Conroy Son Single Male 14 1867 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Transcription Caroline Conroy Daughter Single Female 12 1869 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Transcription Emily M Conroy Daughter Single Female 8 1873 - Aldershot, Hampshire, England Transcription Ada Adelaide Conroy Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - East Indies Transcription
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10 Jun 2015 16:23 |
Jacqueline, I wondered about this marriage:
Marriages Dec 1867 Conroy Patrick Newcastle T 10b 240 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< DORMAN William Newcastle T 10b 240 Kidd Frances Emma Newcastle T 10b 240 NAYLOR Anner Newcastle T 10b 240 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hannah being mistranscribed as Anner
It fits in with the area where the Alfred was born and there is this family in the 1861 census
Piece: RG9/3818 Place: St Andrew -Northumberland Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Saint Andrews Ecclesiastical Parish: Saint Andrews Folio: 83 Page: 14 Schedule: 63 Address: 3 Halls Court NAYLOR William Head M M 39 Fruiterer Yorkshire - Thorner NAYLOR Elvia Wife M F 37 Fruiterers Wife Yorkshire - Barnsley NAYLOR Hannah Dau U F 12 Scholar,Daur Yorkshire - Leeds<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< NAYLOR Mary Jane Dau U F 10 Scholar,Daur Yorkshire - Leeds NAYLOR Nathaniel Son U M 9 Scholar,Son Yorkshire - Leeds NAYLOR Charles Son U M 7 Scholar,Son Yorkshire - Leeds NAYLOR Ann Elizth Dau U F 2 Daur Northumberland - Newcastle NAYLOR Emma Dau U F 1m Daur Northumberland - Newcastle
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Jun 2015 17:42 |
YES patrick and Peter seem to be the same person
based on the baptism of Ada where her father was in the 22nd Foot Regiment thsi could be him First name(s) PATRICK Last name CONROY Birth year 1840 Birth parish MOUNT MELLICK Birth town BRADFORD Birth county QUEENS (LAOIS) Birth country IRELAND Service number 562 Rank SERGEANT Regiment Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot Document Type Discharge Attestation year 1858 Attestation Day 9 Attestation Month 1 Attestation age years 18 Attestation age months 3 Discharge Corps 2/22ND REGT OF FOOT Discharge service number 562 Series WO97 chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913 Box 1923 Box Record Number 79 Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory Regimental & service records Collections from Great Britain Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
now one census has him born in Ireland and others Bradford Yorkshire which I think may have been an assumption on the enumerators part having heard born Bradford. Note his Birth info on the above !!!
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10 Jun 2015 18:16 |
Strangely, I posted that earlier, and then deleted, because I found this in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Thistle Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Patrick Conroy Head Married Male 41 1840 Laborer Genl For Corporation (Scav) Queen's, Ireland Transcription Bridget Conroy Wfe Married Female 40 1841 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Elizabeth A Conroy Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Julia Conroy Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Mary Rourke Boarder Single Female 38 1843 Braid Mill Worker (Trim) Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Joseph Green Nphw Single Male 4 1877 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
If the man in question didn't keep changing his name and birth year, things would be so much more straightforward
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10 Jun 2015 18:18 |
Chris
Yes, your marriage find makes much more sense.
I'll delete my posts to avoid unnecessary confusion
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10 Jun 2015 22:15 |
I wonder, this possible marriage might be worth further investigation:
Marriages Jun 1847 (>99%) BELL Eliza Leeds 23 424 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Booth Joseph Leeds 23 424 DIXON Sarah Leeds 23 424 GIBSON Barnabas Leeds. 23 424 Hitchen Mary Hannah Leeds 23 424 Huscroft Dobson Leeds 23 424 Naylor William Leeds 23 424 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< TAYLOR Charity Leeds 23 424
There are two Eliza Bells born c1824 in Barnsley
Name: Eliza Bell Gender: Female Christening Date: 21 Nov 1824 Christening Place: St. Mary the Virgin's, Barnsley, York, England Father's Name: Richard Bell Mother's Name: Hannah
Name: Eliza Bell Gender: Female Christening Date: 14 Nov 1824 Christening Place: SAINT MARY,BARNSLEY,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name: George Bell Mother's Name: Mary
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19 Sep 2015 08:17 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1355016?jump=1355016
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