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Thank you all. Wll follow these up.

Hi, following on from this, I think I have established that Philip Holmes & Alice Short had 2 children Judith (born 1934) & Stephen (born 1937). Would somebody be able to confirm for me that Judith married ? Weakford & had 2 children Ian & David? Also did Stephen Holmes marry & have any children? Many thanks. :-)

Births Sep 1934 (>99%)
Holmes Judith Short Newcastle T. 10b 234 Scan available - click to view

Births Jun 1937 (>99%)
Holmes Stephen P Short Newcastle T. 10b 157

Weakford
mentioned in the record of Weakford and Judith Holmes
Name: Judith Holmes
Event Type: Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1963
Registration District: Northumberland Central
County: Northumberland
Event Place: Northumberland Central, Northumberland, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Weakford
Volume: 1B
Page: 377
Line Number: 185

Weakford probably married one of the following people
Name: Graham Weakford

Births Sep 1967 (>99%)
WEAKFORD DAVID HOLMES NTHMBLD W 1B 597

ian weakfrd is not listed on bdm

Thank you so much for this Yvonne Maybe there wasn't an Ian! :-)

While there is certainly a marriage for someone named Judith Holmes to Weakford, only by getting a copy of the cert will you know if it's the same Judith

What is your connection..............if any.......to this family?

Hi Jaqueline, I believe that Judith's father (Philip Holmes) may have been my grandfather.

There IS a birth for Ian

BUT..........these people are living and may not wish to be discussed on here

Through which of his children?

You should be working back from yourself...........

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise that would be a problem. If I can find any details I would like to contact one of them directly.

My mum who I suspect was his illegitimate child born before Judith & Stephen, so there is no record as on mum's birth certificate of Philip.

I would think very carefully before attempting to contact any of these people, who are unlikely to be aware of your mother's existence.

I understand that you would wish to have contact with what MAY be relations on your birth father's side, but it is a minefield, to be realistic.

I presume your mother - or someone else - gave you the name of the person reputed to be your biological father

Yes, my mum was given this name. It is (maybe) her father - so my grandfather.

Carol

You must think I'm losing the plot..........probably am!

Was thinking about this while trying to get to sleep..............and I just had to come back to say I realise that I missed out a generation in the latter two paragraphs of my post.

Back to bed now..................