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Hi
Thankyou for your information
I wonder if it states his Family on 1891 Census please
Any luck with 1881 Census
I now need to find his Mothers name then maybe find his Father and Mothers Marraige

From Olive

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Baker Street, Hucknall, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Bramley Head - Male 22 1849 - Leicestershire, England
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Ann Bramley Wife - Female 21 1850 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Wm Henry Bramley Son - Male 1 1870 - Nottinghamshire, England

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carr Street, Ilkeston, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Bramley Head Married Male 21 1870 Coal Miner Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England

Hi
I just wonder if anyone could help me please with the Census for
William Bramley born about 1868 Hucknall Nottingham

He is entered on 1911 Census as a prisoner I wonder why !!
He is also on 1901 Census
But I cannot find him on 1891 1881 1871 Census
It states on the Marraige for William Bramley his Father is called Thomas Bramley
Please
Olive Jean

Hi
Thankyou again you have found me so much information I cant thank you enough
From Olive

I'm suspecting something happened to either or both Thomas and Hannah, as I think this is their youngest child from census 1901, William, in 1911.

I suspect Hannah Hawley is his sister. We didn't see her in the 1901 census with the family, but she has been married 10 years in 1911. I suspect she is named for her mother, and again, there is the connection to Willenhall, Staff, in her birth:


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

12 Cobden Terrace Plimsoll St Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

William Hawley Head Married Male 31 1880 Radford Nottingham Lace Hand Theader
Hannah Hawley Wife Married Female 28 1883 Willenhall Staffs Lace Mender <<<<<<<
John Hawley Son - Male 4 1907 Radford Nottingham -
John Hawley Brother Single Male 28 1883 Radford Nottingham Lace Hand Theader
Albert Hawley Brother Single Male 22 1889 Radford Nottingham Miner Banksman
William Jones Brother Single Male 12 1899 Rullwell Nottingham <<<

I can't actually find a Hawley-Jones marriage though. :-(

Young Sarah A Jones from the 1901 is living with relatives back in Staffordshire in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

9 Chapel Green Willenhall, Willenhall, Staffordshire, England

James Gilbert Gimbeth Head Married Male 39 1872 Willenhall Labourer General
Sarah Gimbeth Wife Married Female 37 1874 Willenhall Varnisher Of Locks
Harriet Gimbeth Daughter Single Female 14 1897 Willenhall Warehouse Girl
Clara Gimbeth Daughter - Female 7 1904 Willenhall School
Tharlote Gimbeth Daughter - Female 4 1907 Willenhall School
Florence Gimbeth Daughter - Female 2 1909 Willenhall Home
James Gimbeth Son - Male 0 1911 Willenhall Home
Sarah Ann Jones Niece - Female 14 1897 Bullbell Notongham At Home<<<<<<<<<<<

Births Sep 1897 Jones Sarah Ann Basford 7b 251

Edit - I think the 'Gimbeths' look more like Gilberts on the census image:

Not having much luck with the 1911 census myself for Thomas and Hannah.

You already know where Mark was, this seems to be his sisters Eliza (now married) and Harriett:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

81 Oxford Street Bulwell Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

George Marlow Head Married Male 29 1882 Bulwell Nottingham Bleachers Labourer
Eliza Marlow Wife Married Female 29 1882 Willenhall Staffordshire <<<
Harriatt Jones Sister In Law Single Female 15 1896 Bulwell Nottingham Cotton Gaser <<<<
George William Marlow Son - Male 8 1903 Bulwell Nottingham
Ethel Marlow Daughter - Female 7 1904 Bulwell Nottingham
Eliza Marlow Daughter - Female 6 1905 Bulwell Nottingham
Ernest Marlow Son - Male 4 1907 Bulwell Nottingham
Frederick Marlow Son - Male 2 1909 Bulwell Nottingham
Lenard Marlow Son - Male 0 1911 Bulwell Nottingham

Marriages Dec 1901
Jones Eliza Nottingham 7b 502 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marlow George Nottingham 7b 502 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SHELTON Mary Ellen Nottingham 7b 502
SMITH Charles Nottingham 7b 502

Difficulty is that both Thomas Jones and Hannah Jones are very common names, so not always easy to identify the right couple.

Hi Olive,

I sent you the medal card via the Genes Reunited personal message system - I see you've opened the message, to access the image, jsut click on the green 'get attachments' at the bottom of my message in your inbox..

Hi
Thankyou for your reply

When I looked on Ancestry when I went to the local library I couldn't find any thing,even though it stated Mark Jones Bulwell?I will be pleased if you scan me his Medial Card Will you need my Email

I looked for 1891census for his family Thomas Jones and Hannah Jones but havnt found it Also 1911 Census

Thankyou again
Olive

I can't find his WWI service records either, sadly I think they are amongst the 70% destroyed in WWII.

I only found his medal card, which was on Ancestry.

I will pm you the scan of the card, but it shows very little.

His rank of Gunner, and the fact he is in the Royal Field Artillery tally with the information you report was provided on his marriage cert.

Hi
I just wondered where you found the ww1 records for Mark Jones born Bulwell Nottingham 1893 Please
From Olive

Hi
Thankyou so much for your reply
I have been into the local library this morning to look for Mark Jones WW1Army Papers but couldn't find anything on Ancestry Co Uk

On 1911Census Mark is living at 33Newmarket Road Bulwell Nottingham

On 1911Census Hilda Rawson is livingat 35 Newmarket Road Bulwell Nottingham

Thankyou again
Olive

Mark as a boarder in Bulwell, in census 1911?


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

33 Newmarket Road Bulwell, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Mary Wright Head Married Female 48 1863 Newthorpe Derbyshire -
Albert Wright Son Single Male 18 1893 Bulwell Notts Road Man Colliery Below
Mark Jones Boarder Single Male 18 1893 Bulwell Notts Road Man Colliery Below<<<<
Mabel Wright Daughter Single Female 7 1904 Bulwell Notts School
Henry Bicknell Boarder Widower Male 54 1857 Long Itchington Warickshire Dealer In Sticks Fire Wood

This looks like the birth for the Mark Jones that rootgather posted the 1901 census for, as Bulwell comes under Basford reg district.

This might be his medal card.

Can't find a service record yet, but so many of them were lost in WWII, and it is also such a common name:

Name: Mark Jones
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Gunner
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery)
Regimental Number: 73445
Sub Unit: Royal Field Artillery
Previous Units: R.F.A. 73445. Gnr.

Hi
Thankyou for your reply
From
Olive

1901


Name: Mark Jones
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Thomas Jones
Mother: Hannah Jones
Birth Place: Nottingham, Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Bulwell St Mary the Virgin
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Bulwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
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Piece: 3190
Folio: 173
Page Number: 33
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jones 44, Coal Miner Hewer
Hannah Jones 45
Eliza Jones 20
Emma Jones 16
Dinah Jones 14
Lilly Jones 11
Thomas Jones 9
Mark Jones 8
Harriett Jones 6
Sarah A Jones 4
William Jones 2

Hi
Thankyou for your reply
Yes William Rawson is a Furnace man on the Marraige
Thomas Jones is a Coal Miner on the Marriage ( I need to find the 1911 Census)

I need to find out about Mark Jones re Army Records

From Olive

Hi Olive.
Does the occupation for William match that posted on previous page, namely furnaceman? If so, that will be your family.
If any doubts, please provide all the info from the cert - such as addresses and names of witnesses.
jan