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I agree, GB.

We can't find any clear evidence of Charles's birth or marriage.
Also no sign of a Margaret King's birth or marriage.

And also now doubt about Eric.

PM sent to Jean to let her know she has replies, and how to find and comment on them.

Really need feedback from poster now

Not sure about the Eric Ferns marriage as christian name of bride does not match with Lucy

As Charles J died between 1901 and 1911, this might be his death (but in Lancashire??):


Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%)

Fern Charles [HN] 42 Chorlton 8c 555

(The image says Fern, Charles H.)

(Deleted rubbish info.)

[EDIT: No, should have been looking for a JW, not a JH.]


???
Ipstone is near Cauldon Lowe:



John Hy. Fern in the 1881 England Census


Name:
John Hy. Fern
Age:
11
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1870
Relationship to Head:
Son
Father:
William M. C. Fern
Mother:
Avis Fern
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Ipstone, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:
Uttoxeter
County/Island:
Staffordshire
Country:
England
Street address:
Kiddlestich Farm
Occupation:
Scholar
Registration district:
Uttoxeter
Sub registration district:
Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel:
12
Piece:
2750
Folio:
34
Page Number:8


William M. C. Fern 41
Avis Fern 39
William T. Fern 16
John Hy. Fern 11
Henrietta M. Fern 8
Harriett L. U. Fern 2
William Hartshorn 41 - servant
William Roseblaid 23 - servant

[EDIT:
I shouldn't do this so late at night - this is rubbish - wrong initials - should have been looking for a JW, not a JH!]

I wondered about that 1867 birth earlier, but in view of the husband named at Margaret's burial, I now wonder if it's this man below ?????

John Henry Fern

England and Wales, Birth Registration Index

Name: John Henry Fern
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1869
Registration District: Cheadle
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: Cheadle, Staffordshire, England
Volume: 6B
Page: 285
Line Number: 152

?? Includes Cauldon

Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
Fearns Charles Cheadle 6b 251

Margaret Louise Fern
South Carolina Deaths, 1915-1943
birth:
1 March 1871
Staffordshire, England
death:
15 February 1934
Centerville, Anderson, Anderson, South Carolina
burial:
16 February 1934
Silver Brook
father:
Jack Mathews <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
mother:
Sallie Jackson
spouse:
J. W. Fern <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ????????????

hi
cant find a birth for charles j ferns and no marriage

What evidence do you have of Charles Ferms marrying Margaret King ?

Margaret Louise Ferns in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name:
Margaret Louise Ferns

Birth Date:
1 Mar 1870

Birth Place:
Staffordshire, England

Death Date:
15 Feb 1934

Death Place:
Anderson, Anderson County, South Carolina, USA

Cemetery:
Silver Brook Cemetery

Burial or Cremation Place:
Anderson, Anderson County, South Carolina, USA

Has Bio?:
N

Children:
Nellie Adelaide Ferns
Donald Charles Ferns

URL:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Oh that explains why not found a death in England

Margaret L Ferns in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Name:
Margaret L Ferns

Birth Year:
abt 1871

Gender:
Female

Race:
White

Birthplace:
England

Marital Status:
Widowed

Relation to Head of House:
Head

Homemaker?:
Yes

Home in 1930:
Anderson, Anderson, South Carolina

Map of Home:
View Map


Street address:
Marshall Ave.

Ward of City:
1

House Number in Cities or Towns:
602

Dwelling Number:
67

Family Number:
72

Home Owned or Rented:
Rented

Home Value:
35

Radio Set:
No

Lives on Farm:
No

Age at First Marriage:
20

Attended School:
No

Able to Read and Write:
Yes

Father's Birthplace:
England

Mother's Birthplace:
England

Language Spoken:
English

Immigration Year:
1928

Naturalization:
Alien

Able to Speak English:
Yes

Neighbors:
View others on page

Household Members:


Name

Age


Margaret L Ferns 59
Donald C Ferns 29
Dorothea A Ferns 27
Adelaide N Ferns 23

1891 but as Joseph

Name: Joseph Ferns
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Cauldon; Cowes, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Ingestre
Ecclesiastical parish: Ingestre
Town: Ingestre
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: groom

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2141
Folio: 74
Page Number: 7

Perhaps Charles's birth?
Cheadle reg district includes Cauldon.


Births Dec 1867 (>99%)

Fearns Charles Cheadle 6b 251

1911 poss

Name: Eric Ferns
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shavington, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Sunninghill
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address: Manton House, New Rd, Ascot
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: House Boy Domestic
Registration district: Windsor
Registration District Number: 125
Sub-registration district: Egham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 6702
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Louisa Ferns 41
Hilda May Ferns 17
Eric Ferns 15
Dorothy Ferns 10
Donald Charles Ferns 8
Adelaide Nelly Ferns 6

For our reference, is this the family in 1901?


Charles J Ferns in the 1901 England Census

Name
Charles J Ferns
Age:
32
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1869
Relation to Head:
Head
Gender:
Male
Spouse:
Margaret L Ferns
Birth Place:
Cauldon Lowe, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:
Warfield
Ecclesiastical parish:
Warfield
County/Island:
Berkshire
Country:
England :
Registration district:
Easthampstead
Sub-registration district:
Bracknell
ED, institution, or vessel:
6
Piece:
1162
Folio:
111
Page Number:
11
Household schedule number:
62

Charles J Ferns 32
Margaret L Ferns 30
Joseph W Ferns 9
Hilda M Ferns 7
Eris Ferns 5
Alexander G Ferns 3
Ben Ferns 2
Dorothy N Ferns 4/12

Just for info

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
Compton Margaret L Ferns Gloucester 6a 633
Davis Daisy M M Grate Gloucester 6a 633
Ferns Eric Compton Gloucester 6a 633
Grate Ernest B Davis Gloucester 6a 633

Location ?

What census info do you have or certs?

Hi after success of my family tree I am now trying to progress on my husband. Charles J Ferns 1869 married a Margret King had a son Eric 1896? Who married Lucy Compton.b 1890 We cannot get further with Charles Ferns, or Margret King
any help would be appreciated.Jean