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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Mar 2015 22:21

Laurence Muns Guillemard

in the 1881 England Census
Name: Laurence Muns Guillemard
[Laurence Nunns Guillemard]
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relationship to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: Godalming
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Charterhouse <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Guildford
Sub registration district: Godalming
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 779
Folio: 31
Page Number: 26

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Mar 2015 22:24

Sir Laurence Nunns Guillemard

in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Sir Laurence Nunns Guillemard
Probate Date: 8 Mar 1952
Death Date: 13 Dec 1951
Death Place: Guildford
Registry: London, England


Probate to the same firm of solicitors. No mention of any Baly's - no reason why there should be.
Ah, well, it was just a long shot!

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 13 Mar 2015 22:35

Elizabeth Baly leaves a will naming Margaret Agnes Cruichshank as her cousin

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2015 22:53

25 October 1888 - The Will of Elizabeth Baly late of 85 Sterndale Road Brook Green in the Parish of Kensington in the County of Middlesex, Spinster who died 23 September 1888 at 85 Sterndale Road was proved at the Principal Registry by Margaret Agnes Cruickshank of 85 Sterndale Road Spinster the Niece and one of the Executrixes.

So Margaret actually named as Niece (but a Spinster herself)

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 13 Mar 2015 22:57

Margaret Agnes Cruichshank will names Ida Winifred Vivian

Ida's mother is Elizabeth Barly Farquhar

Elizabeth's mother was Hannah Sarah Barly but she was born Warwickshire

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2015 23:00

3 sisters, all spinsters!

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sterndale Road, Hammersmith, Fulham, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Catherine G Cruickshank Head Single Female 45 1846 Artist Portrait Printer Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Margaret A Cruickshank Sister Single Female 44 1847 Teacher Private Lessons Marylebone
Dorothea B Cruickshank Sister Single Female 42 1849 Teacher Private Lessons Marylebone

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2015 23:04

Those 3 sisters in 1851 with parents and an Elizabeth Baly

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
50, Burlington Street, Chorlton upon Medlock, Chorlton, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frances Cruickshank Head Married Male 61 1800 Artist Portrait Painter Scotland
Catherine Cruickshank Wife Married Female 46 1815 - - Warwick, Warwicks
Anne Cruickshank Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 Scholar -Warwick, Warwicks
Grace E Cruickshank Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Artist Portrait Painter London, Middlesex, England
Catherina G Cruickshank Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 Artist Portrait Painter London, Middlesex, England
Margaret A Crickshank Daughter - Female 14 1847 Scholar -Marylebone, London
Henry Crickshank Son - Male 13 1848 Scholar - Maryleone, London
Dorothey J Crickshank Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar - Marylebone, London
Elizabeth Baly Sister Unmarried Female 39 1822 - Warwick, Warwickshire, England <<<<<<<<<
William Gangahar Nephew - Male 13 1848 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Ann J Gangahar Niece - Female 10 1851 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Catherine E Gangahar Niece - Female 9 1852 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Mary Capen Servant Unmarried Female 40 1821 General Servant Lancashire, England


so not the correct Elizabeth Baly, so not her will

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 13 Mar 2015 23:09

I've come to the same conclusion Greyhound

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2015 23:27

Perhaps this one?

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name BALY
Gender Female
Birth year 1817
Age 77
Death quarter 2
Death year 1894
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 201


Baly Elizabeth of the Banqueting House Hampton Court Palace Middlesex, Spinster died 6 June 1894 Probate London 6 July to Charles St Clare Bedford and Arthur George Guillemard Solicitors. Effects £2710 1s resworn November 1894 £5864 1s

There is the Guillemard connection again and Hampton Court is the address where Frances was in 1891 and both Frances and the French cousin in 1901

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:40

Name: Sir Laurence Guillemard
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
County: Surrey
Parish: Witley
Sub-District: Witley
Registration District: Hambledon
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Birthplace: Dublin, County Dublin
Record Type: Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:41

Name: Laurence N Guillemard
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Ireland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Cambridge
Sub-District: St Andrew The Less
Parish: St Andrew The Less
County: Cambridgeshire

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William H Guillemard Self M 55 Hackney, Middlesex
Elizabeth Susanna Guillemard Wife F 47 Smethwick, Warwickshire
Elizabeth S Guillemard Daughter F 20 Ireland
Rosamond H Guillemard Daughter F 17 Ireland
Mary F Guillemard Daughter F 15 Ireland
Laurence N Guillemard Son M 8 Ireland
Lucy Jane Guillemard Daughter F 5 Ireland
Susanna Mccormick Servant F 35 Liverpool, Lancashire
Sarah Howard Servant F 25 Shepperton, Middlesex
Catharine Wood Servant F 23 Newent, Gloucestershire
Emma Adams Servant F 17 Granchester, Cambridgeshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:41

Name: Laurence N Guillemard
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1902
Registration District: Walsingham
County: Norfolk
Event Place: Walsingham, Norfolk, England
Volume: 4B
Page: 567
Line Number: 108


Laurence N Guillemard probably married one of the following people
Name: Ellen Walker

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:43

so this one didn't marry

Name: Mary F Guillemard
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1930
Registration District: Guildford
County: Surrey
Event Place: Guildford, Surrey, England
Age (available after 1866): 72
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Volume: 2A
Page: 194
Line Number: 59

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:44

nor this one

Name: Rosamond Harriet Guillemard
Event Type: Probate
Event Date: 25 Nov 1895
Event Place: Middlesex

GS Film number: 100995 , Digital Folder Number: 005014909 , Image Number: 00567

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:46

Name: Lucy J Guillemard
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
County: Kent
Parish: FOLKESTONE
Ecclesiastical Parish: CHRISTCHURCH
Sub-District: FOLKESTONE
Registration District: ELHAM
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Relationship to Head of Household: Sister
Birthplace: Ireland Armagh Armagh
Schedule Type: Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:46

looks like none of them married

Name: Lucy J Guillemard
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1926
Registration District: Holywell
County: Flintshire
Event Place: Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
Age (available after 1866): 60
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Volume: 11B
Page: 209
Line Number: 99

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Mar 2015 23:48

nor this one

Name: Elizabeth S Guillemard
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1886
Registration District: Cambridge
County: Cambridgeshire
Event Place: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 63
Birth Year (Estimated): 1823
Volume: 3B
Page: 311
Line Number: 58

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2015 23:55

Huguenot Pedigrees - Volume 1 - Page 50 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0806302070
Charles Edmund Lart - 1924 - ?Reference
Isaac Guillemard, M.D. (of Berlin), of Eltham, Kent, b. 24 June 181 1, bapt. 22 Jan. ... 27 March 19 18, at Eastbourne ; (d) Arthur George, of Passey House, Eltham, afterwards of 3 Arlington Street, St. James, solicitor, b. 18 Dec. 1845 at Eltham ...
1876

Says Arthur George died unmarried.

There is also a Wiki link to the same man (dates of birth/death confirm same person)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._G._Guillemard
Arthur George Guillemard (18 December 1845 - 7 August 1909) was an English rugby union fullback who represented for England in the world's very first rugby .....

Could well be that William Baly and Isaac Guillemard met in Berlin at Medical School

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 14 Mar 2015 11:22

I suppose really that this should have been on Find Living relatives.

but I am amazed how much you ladies found out, in only a couple of hours,



For information ....on the brooch
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/keepsafe/asset/details/13857462

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/keepsafe/asset/details/13786519

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/keepsafe/asset/details/13786550



Edited...........102 views, wow........
104.........

RE:Lynn Museum.......
have sent em an email for interest....waiting for response.....

no response so far............. still no response, 10/4/15

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Mar 2015 13:18

What a beautiful thing!

It's a shame there doesn't seem to be anyone to pass it on to.