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This relative is one of a twin. Born 1871 Barnstaple District, but address Berrynabor, Ilfracombe, Devon. Parents John Robins and Jane Butler. I have traced her twin Frances Georgina Robins/Webber/Britton. Her siblings Frederick 1867, John Charles 1865 and Eva Jane 1862.
She appears at home in 1871 and 1881 in Devon, after which I cannot find her.
No marriage match, no passenger list that seems to fit, no death which seems to fit.

Her family later spelled their name Robbins. The two boys were in Cardiff for a time, one of them, Fred moved to Bristol and Eva married in Bristol, and was living there in 1901. Frances too lived in Bristol and probably died there.

She was known as Kate on census at home.
Her twin Frances, gave birth to a child about 1913 called Amelia K Britton, but she died about a year later. I assume she was named after her aunt.



I have tried every combination of the name I can think of. .and no tree contacts know either.. any ideas please.

Regards G ..losing sleep !!!.
:-S

Did any of her siblings marry and was she a witness ?
Have you got any of the certs ?

Just in case ....


Marriages Mar 1891
Robbins Amelia Kate B - Bristol 6a 120
Summerhayes Emma Jane Bristol 6a 120
Taylor Walter Hooke Bristol 6a 120
Westcott William Bristol 6a 120



Marriages Mar 1903

Blandford Florence Mabel Bristol 6a 57
Pitts Thomas Bristol 6a 57
Tadd William Bristol 6a 57
Taylor Amelia Kate B - Bristol 6a 57

You say her twin Frances gave birth to Amelia Kate Britton but the record doesn't show mother's maiden name as Robbins


Births Sep 1912
Britton Amelia K - Webber - Bristol 6a 302

This looks like her in 1891, parents' names are right

Name: Emily Robins
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Robins
Mother's name: Jane Robins
Gender: Female
Where born: Barnstaple, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Barnstaple
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Barnstaple
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Barnstable
ED, institution, or vessel: 7

Piece: 1773
Folio: 120
Page Number: 23

John Robins 49
Jane Robins 45
Emily Robins 21


EDIT or perhaps not.... there is another John and Jane Robins in the same area (as always!).

1881 (Find My Past) (Reference)
John Robins Head Married Male 40 1841 Mason Devon Berrynarbor, England
Jane Robins Wife Married Female 48 1833 - Devon, England
Eva Robins Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Dressmaker Ilfracombe, Devon, England
John Robins Son Single Male 16 1865 Bages Boy (Wts) Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Frederick Robins Son Single Male 14 1867 Scholar Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Frances Robins Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Kate Robins Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Street Meridian Close
Parish Ilfracombe
County Devon
Registration district Barnstaple
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2247
Folio 111
Page 58


1891 (Find My Past) (Wrong Age)
John Robbins Head Married Male 60 1831 Mason Berrynarbor, Devon, England
Jane Robbins Wife Married Female 50 1841 - Georgeham, Devon, England
Street Ropery Road
Town Chivenor
Parish Ilfracombe
County Devon
Registration district Barnstable
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1777
Folio 117
Page 27


1901 (Find My Past)
John Robbins Head Married Male 64 1837 Mason Berrynarbor, Devon, England
Jane Robbins Wife Married Female 72 1829 - Georgeham, Devon, England
Street Ropery Road
Town Ilfracombe
Parish Ilfracombe
County Devon
Registration district Barnstaple
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2149
Folio 12
Page 15

Chris :)

Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Robbins John 59 Barnstaple 5b 290

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Holly House Ilfracombe, Ilfracombe, Devon, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Jane Robins Head Widow Female 82 1829 Devonshire Georgeham -

SIX children born....................ONE has died

For INFO - to explain MMN on birth reg'n

Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)

Robbins Frances Georgina Cardiff 11a 577
Robdine Frances Georgina Cardiff 11a 577
Webber William John V Cardiff 11a 577


Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)

Britton Alfred George Bristol 6a 120
Webber Frances Georgina Bristol 6a 120

Thank you so so much for all your work folks. I too discovered most of your above results/replies .. but just to say.. the John and Jane with Emily is certainly the wrong family.

I had not got the 1911 about the mother Jane Butler/Robins, and the admission of one dead child ... that is a revelation as it narrows the search for Amelia Kate, but still do not have her from 1891 ...

The Amelia Kate B marrying in Bristol, I think is not her, as I found a lot older birth in the Bristol area for this name, so logically this in another person.

I'm reticent to buy certs until am convinced it is the correct one .. but a really good suggestion.

William John V Webber turned out to be Voisey [or Voysey - i forget] on 1901 and he died shortly after, and subsequent remarriage for Frances.

Thank you so much for your expertise, this has taken about a year to sort on and off, but would now like to "bury" Amelia.

p.s. the marriage in 1891 I don't think is correct for my girl, but Walter Hooke Taylor's birth might have been recorded as Walter Turk Taylor ???

I found this but, there are three Amelias born in Devon around her birth date, so unsure.

Amelia RobinsEngland and Wales Census, 1901 Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Age: 30 Relationship to Head of Household: Visitor
Birthplace: Devonshire
Registration District: WandsworthSub-District: East Battersea
Ecclesiastical Parish: St BartholomewCivil Parish: Battersea
District/Parish/County: London, Middlesex
====but is this her ??

This is a great facility you offer ,,, thanks again. G

That one you found in 1901 is the wife of a James Robin, and has a son James.

Amelia Robin in the 1901 England Census
Name: Amelia Robin
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 447
Folio: 104
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gayler 59
Waring Gayler 59
Elizabeth Towsend 34
Mary Towsend 14
Chas Towsend 9
John Towsend 7
James Robin 34 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Amelia Robin 30 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
James Robin 3 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

There were only 5 children listed in 1871 and 1881, and you only refer to 5 names, so one has to assume that child who died pre-1911 was unlikely to be Amelia

John's name was recorded as Robbins when he married Jane

The differences can be attributed to the fact that they probably didn't know how to spell, and the officials wrote what they thought was correct

Thanks for that Argyllgran,

Jacqueline, yes only found five children. John the mason married Jane Butler in 1862, she was a bit older that John, and pregnant then, and the twins would be born when she was about 42 or 43, so I too, have concluded that Jane's dead child might well have been born and died between the censuses.

So I am back to looking for a marriage for her, or death again.

I downloaded an Edward E Britton and Amelia 1911, as she admits a north devon birth, but she may have been ~Amelia Hill, and I cannot find a previous Amelia to Hill marriage, in case she was married twice, so have lost my way on that one. I got this in case this Edward Britton was related to her sister's husband, and the family lived in Cardiff for a while.
.....
thanks very much

Still can't find her ...

Probably just co-incidence but in view of the Webber surname ....


Births Mar 1874
Webber Amelia Kate B - Stoke D. 5b 337

thanks mike, strange coincidence, however she was born in 1871 near Ilfracombe.

still looking for a marriage or death of Amelia Kate

Edit: deleting info as it was incomplete.

Julie

Think you've posted the wrong marriage....No Eva

How frustrating! I've typed out all the info first, then copied and pasted but it's not all appearing in my post. Have tried several times and before I hit submit the info is all there but when the post appears it's just a few lines. Will edit my post above as it makes little sense and try again later.

Julie

Edit. Nope, tried several times but still not working, must be a glitch in the system. Will try again tomorrow.

Mike, it was about the marriages you posted earlier. If you look for Eva Jane Biddle in 1911 you'll see the connection. I'm logging off for the night!