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Just a thought....................

The 1881 doesn't actually say that Catherine is her mother - we are just assuming that !

They are just down as 'lodgers' so Catherine could be an 'aunt' or any other relative?

Dea x

Shame we can't find Baptism for Mary E one!, looks like Birth Cert. needed.

Chris :)

(sorted Witnesses Jane Foxley/George Platt earlier in 'Thread', possibly!)


edits (Catherine with probably Platt, as Nieces?)

1891 (Find My Past)
Catherine Foxley Head Widow Female 63 1828 Office Cleaner Marston, Cheshire, England
Joseph Foxley Son Single Male 36 1855 - Witton, Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Pratt Niece - Female 6 1885 Scholar Marston, Cheshire, England
Jane Pratt Niece - Female 2 1889 - Marston, Cheshire, England
William S Hall Boarder Married Male 28 1863 Professional Vocalist Enderby, Leicestershire, England
James Mannering Boarder Married Male 17 1874 Professional Vocalist Burslem, Staffordshire, England
Street Church Road
Parish Witton cum Twambrook
County Cheshire
Registration district Northwich
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2839
Folio 36
Page 9

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
FOXLEY Sarah - Congleton Cheshire East CON/18/12

So do you think that she's the one who married Wm. Senior in 1875? But then Shirley says that on the 81 census they're living with her widowed mother Catherine.

Edit: Just checked the original of that census and it doesn't really say that Mary is the daughter of Catherine, it says that the Seniors are lodgers.

Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) MARY
Last name FOXLEY
Gender Female
Birth year 1856
Baptism year 1856
Baptism date 12 Oct 1856
Place ACTON (NEAR NANTWICH)
Father's first name(s) Thomas (Labourer)
Father's last name Foxley
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
(Abode, Burland)

(one of Births posted, not seeing other)

Chris :)

edits (apologies to safc, just seen!)

Uh oh!!!

Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 Transcription
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First name(s) MARY
Last name FOXLEY
Age -
Gender Female
Birth year 1856
Birth date -
Baptism year 1856
Baptism date 12 Oct 1856
Church -
Place ACTON (NEAR NANTWICH)
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Foxley
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name -
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts baptisms 1576-1906
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Thanks everyone. You have been really helpful :-D

She was 19 when she married!

One thing I have learned since I have been doing family trees is that a lot of people never actually knew their exact date of birth they just gave 'thereabouts'. ie. Mary has 3 different dates 1881 census -b.1855, 1891 c. b. 1860, 1901 and 1911 c. b. 1859

Perhaps buying both of these certificates would determine who's who.

Births Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Foxley Mary Nantwich 8a 270


Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
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Foxley Mary Elizabeth Northwich 8a 234

Hi Folks
Still sifting through all the info. you are kindly giving me. Just realised I forgot to mention that one of the witnesses for William/Mary's wedding was a Jane Foxley.

I wonder if the Mary with grandparents in 1861 is the daughter of Thomas Foxley and Sarah Williams (Andrew posted their marriage).

George and Mary Williams did have a daughter Sarah.

1851

George Williams
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Malpas, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Baddiley
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Bunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 2170
Folio: 299
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
George Williams 52
Mary Williams 52
Sarah Williams 14 <<<<<<<
Frances Williams 12
Jane Williams

Thanks for help so far. There is a lot for me to take note of.
Shirley

Ah well, we know how reliable Ancestry trees are....don't we?

Yes, of course you're right, Jacqueline. She was great grandaughter of George. I even went back to the original to see if it had been mistranscribed but it just says grandaughter.

Amazing how may trees on Ancestry have her as Mary Elizabeth born 1860.

As I said earlier, I think that George is a GREAT grandfather.................look at his age

Although it could easily be the wrong Mary, as she is a little older, and the birthplace is not the same as in later years

I do, however, feel fairly confident about the other censuses

The one SURE thing is that she was definitely NOT the Mary Elizabeth born c1860

Told you I was getting confused, Jacqueline. So is that the wrong 1861 census where Mary Foxley is with the Williams grandparents?

Andrew also posted that one, Margee, but I can't think that it's relevant, to be honest

??????
Catherine Clark
England Births and Christenings
Name: Catherine Clark
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1829
Christening Place: GREAT BUDWORTH, CHESHIRE, ENGLAND
Father's Name: James Clark
Mother's Name: Betty