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12 Jan 2015 23:10 |
PM sent mgnv.
Your time and effort is so very much appreciated.
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12 Jan 2015 22:54 |
Ship:LABRADOR Port of Departure:Liverpool, England Date of Departure:1898-08-18 Port of Arrival:Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que. Date of Arrival:1898-08-26 Year:1898 Microfilm Reel Number:C-4542 Remarks: List Number: 65 Reference:RG 76 Item Number:3684 http://data2.archives.ca/e/e143/e003555248.jpg
I don't think this is our John - it *does* say Bedford, and our John has pob=Sunderland in 1911 Ship:BAVARIAN Port of Departure:Liverpool, England Londonderry, Ireland Date of Departure:1904-06-02 Port of Arrival:Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que. Date of Arrival:1904-06-11 Year:1904 Microfilm Reel Number:T-482 Remarks: List Number: 27 Reference:RG 76 Item Number:4202 http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003655526.jpg
Ship:VANCOUVER Shipping Line:Dominion Line Port of Departure:Liverpool, England Date of Departure:1893-08-24 Port of Arrival:Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que. Date of Arrival:1893-09-02 Year:1893 Microfilm Reel Number:C-4539 Remarks: List Number: 83 Reference:RG 76 Item Number:3174 http://data2.archives.ca/e/e143/e003552139.jpg
One can search most censuses at: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx E.g., Dorothy Hunter a=30 in 1891 (w John a=37) http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148093-00523.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: BC VANCOUVER ISLAND (#3) Subdistrict: Nanaimo (South/Sud) G-1 Page 16 32 173 Doole John M Head M Jul 15 1865 35 33 173 Doole A. Dorothy F Wife M Oct 19 1860 40 34 173 Pethrick G. Robert M Stepson S Jan 17 1888 13 35 173 Pethrick H. Margrene F Stepdaughter S Jan 24 1896 5 --------------- 36 174 Hunter John M Head M Apr 9 1854 46 [In household 173, the enumerator wrote the surname as 'Pethrick', a suggested alternative surname is 'Petherick'. The person suggesting the alternative surname provided this comment: 'Petherick is in the BC Archives- first names there are Marjory Hannah'.] I don't know the relevance, if any, of their neighbour. http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/pdf/z000011771.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: BC VANCOUVER ISLAND (#3) Subdistrict: Nanaimo (South/Sud) G-2 Page 39 8 400 B?yden Alexander M Head M Jul 23 1863 37 9 400 B?yden Margaret F Wife M Oct 9 1868 32 10 400 B?yden David A M Son S Sep 3 1899 1 ----------------- 14 402 Dudley John R M Head M Oct 12 1875 25 15 402 Dudley Hannah J F Wife M Jul 5 1875 25 16 402 Dudley Irene M F Daughter S Oct 11 1899 1 17 402 P?t???ick Dorothy F Daughter S Jul 5 1892 8 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/pdf/z000011831.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / British Columbia / Nanaimo / 20 Oyster / page 23 [Ladysmith City] 6 233 Bryden Alexander M Head M Jul 1863 47 7 233 Bryden Mary F Wife M Oct 1868 42 8 233 Bryden David M Son S Sep 1899 11 9 233 Bryden Wilfred M Son S May 1901 10 10 233 Bryden John M Son S Jan 1906 5 11 233 Jathick? Dorothy F Niece S Jul 1892 18 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001938447.pdf
For 1921, anyone can search for free, but only via: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991 In particular, for: Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1921 Birth Year Birth Place Relation View Image Dorothy Sheriff George Metchosin, Nanaimo, British Columbia abt 1892 British Columbia Wife [Metchosin is abt 15km SW of Victoria
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12 Jan 2015 22:43 |
More UK stuff:
Births [plus 1901 d.o.b] 1860q4 GOWLAND Dorothy Ann Sunderland 10a 377 [Oct 19 1860] 1866q4 Gowland Catherine Sunderland 10a 488 [Kate d 1898] 1868q4 GOWLAND Mary Margaret Chester le S. 10a 456 [Oct 9 1868] 1871q1 Gowland Margery Chester le S. 10a 525 1875q3 GOWLAND Anna Jane Chester le S. 10a 628 [Jul 5 1875]
Deaths Dec 1875 (>99%) GOWLAND Robert 45 Chester le S. 10a 289
I don't know if any of these marrs are relevant:
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%) EMBLETON Mary Ann Gateshead 10a 955 FERGUSON John Gateshead 10a 955 GOWLAND Dorothy Gateshead 10a 955 WATSON Thomas Gateshead 10a 955
Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%) COLLEDGE Thomas Davison Chester le S. 10a 611 GOWLAND Dorothy Chester le S. 10a 611 OSWALD John Blackett Chester le S 10a 611 Robson Hannah Chester le S. 10a 611
Marriage certificate for: Name: GOWLAND, Dorothy Year: 1887 COLLEDGE, Thomas D From the postal application form: Register No. - Entry No. - District DNCQ1 entry 128 [I think DNCQ is Durham Northern St Barnabas Bournmoor - abt 6 km S of Usworth]
Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%) Bailey Alice Mary Sunderland 10a 703 Gowland Margery Sunderland 10a 703 Hodgson Vincent Simpson Sunderland 10a 703 McKenna William Wardle Sunderland 10a 703
GOWLAND Margery 1893 C009BK1/341 Click to view spouse details Spouse : MCKENNA William 1893
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I can't see the 1891 census for: Margery Gowland abt 1871 city, Durham, England relation city, Durham [rg12/4134/71/38 - she's a servant]
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Canadian stuff
A better site to search for BC BMDs is: http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch The advantage is that images of some BMD (Vital stat) certs are online and free. For instance, there's one image online for the first 3 births.
Name: DUDLEY, IRENE MAY Gender: Female Date: 1899/10/11 Event Place: WELLINGTON Registration Number: 1899-09-053855 Event Type: Birth Name: DUDLEY, IRENE MAY Gender: Female Date: 1904/07/02 Event Place: LADYSMITH Father Name: JOHN ROBERT Mother Name: HANNAH Event Type: Baptism
Name: DUDLEY, ANNIE MAUDE Gender: Female Date: 1901/12/28 Event Place: EXTENSION Registration Number: 1901-09-054372 Event Type: Birth Name: DUDLEY, ANNIE MAUD Gender: Female Date: 1904/07/02 Event Place: LADYSMITH Father Name: JOHN ROBERT Mother Name: HANNAH Event Type: Baptism
Name: DUDLEY, MARJORIE WINNIFRED Gender: Female Date: 1903/09/29 Event Place: LADYSMITH Registration Number: 1903-09-055882 Event Type: Birth Vital Stat Images(s): 004401573_00686.jpg
Ladysmith is abt 90km N of Victoria & abt 25 km S of Nanaimo.
Luckily, Marj was b 1903, not 1904 as the UK 1911 might imply. 1903 births fell under the old legislaion - after 1903, births are closed for 120y, marrs for 75y, and deaths for 20y - the stuff released 1/1/2015 isn't online yet.
Groom Name: BRYDEN, ALEXANDER Bride Name: GOWLAND, MARGARET Date: 1898/10/11 Event Place: VANCOUVER Registration Number: 1898-09-046838 B.C. Archives Mfilm Number: B11372 GSU Mfilm Number: 1983529 Event Type: Marriage Vital Stat Images(s): 004400856_01860.jpg
Name: BRYDEN, WILFRED GOWLAND Gender: Male Date: 1901/05/30 Event Place: EXTENSION Registration Number: 1901-09-054284 Event Type: Birth Vital Stat Images(s): 004401571_00512.jpg
Name: PETHERICK, CATHERINE Gender: Female Age: 32 Date: 1898/12/01 Event Place: CHASE RIVER Registration Number: 1898-09-046268 Event Type: Death
[Chase River is abt 5km S of Nanaimo - it's now on the outskirts of the town]
Name: PETHERICK, DORATHY HUNTER Gender: Female Date: 1892/07/05 Event Place: NANAIMO Registration Number: 1892-09-049897 Event Type: Birth
Name: PETHERICK, MARJORY HANNAH Gender: Female Date: 1896/01/24 Event Place: NANAIMO Registration Number: 1896-09-051945 Event Type: Birth Name: PETHERICK, MARGERY HANNAH Gender: Female Date: 1896/09/02 Event Place: CEDAR DISTRICT Father Name: JOHN GEORGE Mother Name: KATHERINE Event Type: Baptism
Groom Name: SHERIFF, THEODORE GEORGE Bride Name: PETHERICK, DOROTHY Date: 1918/09/22 Event Place: SIDNEY Registration Number: 1918-09-036514 B.C. Archives Mfilm Number: B11372 GSU Mfilm Number: 1983529 Event Type: Marriage Vital Stat Images(s): 004400856_00473.jpg
Name: SHERIFF, GEORGE Gender: Male Age: 86 Date: 1967/10/03 Event Place: SAANICH Registration Number: 1967-09-012558 Event Type: Death Vital Stat Images(s): 004479276_02166.jpg
Name: SHERIFF, DOROTHY HUNTER Gender: Female Age: 95 Date: 1987/07/11 Event Place: LANGFORD Registration Number: 1987-09-010995 Event Type: Death Vital Stat Images(s): DTH_1987010995.jpg
Groom Name: THOMAS, GORDON COOKSON Bride Name: PETHERICK, MARGERY HANNAH Date: 1919/06/10 Event Place: VANCOUVER Registration Number: 1919-09-202723 B.C. Archives Mfilm Number: B11390 GSU Mfilm Number: 1984111 Event Type: Marriage Vital Stat Images(s): 004400866_01592.jpg
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jan 2015 10:06 |
Many thanks mgnv and safc.
Prickles. x
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9 Jan 2015 21:41 |
1861 census
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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 57, Hendon Road, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Dorothy Gowland Wife Married Female 20 1841 Seamans Wife Durham, England Transcription Dorothy A Gowland Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Sunderland, Durham, England Transcription Dorothy A Finkler Niece - Female 8 1853 - Jarrow, Durham, England
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9 Jan 2015 21:23 |
Northumberland and Durham Marriages Transcription
Learn more Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) ROBERT Last name GOWLAND Marriage year 1859 Marriage day 21 Marriage month Dec Place HENDON Groom's first name(s) Robert Groom's last name Gowland Groom's parish - Bride's first name(s) Dorothy Bride's last name Sutherland Bride's parish - Description St. Paul County Durham Country England Record set Northumberland and Durham Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sunderlandpubliclibraries/3566508658/in/photostream/
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9 Jan 2015 20:54 |
Earlier UK stuff
Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%) >Gowland Robert Sunderland 10a 499 Reed Jane Sunderland 10a 499 Smith Thomas Sunderland 10a 499 >Sutherland Dorothy Sunderland 10a 499
Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%) Bolam Joseph Chester le S. 10a 489 >Gowland Dorothy Ann Chester le S. 10a 489 >HUNTER John Wilson Chester le S. 10a 489 SOUTH Alice Chester le S. 10a 489
Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%) >GOWLAND Catherine Chester le S. 10a 640 Pearson Jane Ann Chester le S. 10a 640 >Petherick John George Chester le S. 10a 640
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%) Carr Elizabeth Jane Sunderland 10a 820 >Dudley John Robert Sunderland 10a 820 >GOWLAND Hannah Jane Sunderland 10a 820 Robinson Richard Sunderland 10a 820
Just using the local index to confirmwho wed whom - see: http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1399 Unfortunately, Sunderland doesn't provide a key for their church codes, so what churches C017, C021 & C049 stand for is a mystery to me, except they all look like C of E codes.
GOWLAND Robert 1859 C021BK1/321 Spouse : SUTHERLAND Dorothy 1859
GOWLAND Dorothy 1879 C049BK1/337 Spouse : HUNTER John 1879
GOWLAND Catherine 1887 C049BK1/453 Spouse : PETHERICK John 1887
GOWLAND Hannah 1896 C017BK3/130 Spouse : DUDLEY John 1896
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X355-8NV Dorothy Gowland Head F 34 Gateshead, Durham, England Mary M Gowland Daughter F 12 Usworth, Durham, England Margery Gowland Daughter F 10 Usworth, Durham, England Hannah J Gowland Daughter F 5 Usworth, Durham, England
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZF-B7X Robert Gowland Self M 42 Sunderland, Durham Dorothy Gowland Wife F 33 Sheriff Hill, Durham Dorothy Ann Gowland Daughter F 10 Sunderland, Durham Catherine Gowland Daughter F 4 Sunderland, Durham Mary Margaret Gowland Daughter F 2 Mount, Durham Margery Gowland Daughter F 0 Mount, Durham
1861 Census Piece: RG9/3774 Place: S Bishop-Wearmouth -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish: Bishopwearmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: St Pauls Folio: 54 Page: 48 Schedule: 305 Address: - Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks GOWLAND Dorothy Wife M F 23 Seaman's Wife Co. Durham - Sheriff Hill GOWLAND Dorothy A Dau - F 6m Co. Durham - Sunderland FINKLER Dorothy A Niece - F 8 Co. Durham - Jarrow
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7 Jan 2015 15:42 |
I just found them actually..........but thanks for looking Gins.
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7 Jan 2015 15:19 |
Not sure if you have this child's birth details
Name:Marjorie Winnifred Dudley
Gender:Female
Birth Date:29 Sep 1903
Birth Location:Ladysmith
Registration Number:1903-09-055882
BCA Number:B13819
GSU Number:2134889
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Added: A possible for Annie
Name:Annie Maude Dudley
Gender:Female
Birth Date:28 Dec 1901
Birth Location: Extension
Registration Number:1901-09-054372
BCA Number:B13817
GSU Number:2134887
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7 Jan 2015 15:10 |
Wonderful.
I shall sift though it all.
Thank you very much for your time everyone.
Prickles.
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7 Jan 2015 14:20 |
possible parents of Dorothy
John George /Petherick/ birth: January 1865 Sunderland, Durham, England death: Catherine /Gowland/ birth: about 1867 Sunderland, Durham, England death: 1 December 1898 Chase River, British Columbia
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Dorothy Petherick mentioned in the record of Theodore George Sheriff and Dorothy Petherick Name: Theodore George Sheriff Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Sep 1918 Event Place: Sidney, British Columbia, Canada Age: 38 Birth Year (Estimated): 1880 Birthplace: Throdhjen, Norway Marital Status: Bachelor Father's Name: John T Sheriff Mother's Name: Biret Spouse's Name: Dorothy Petherick Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1892 Spouse's Birthplace: Chase River, Spouse's Marital Status: Spinster Spouse's Father's Name: Geo Petherick Spouse's Mother's Name: Kate Gowan Affiliate Film Number: B11372 Certificate Type: License GS Film number: 1983529 , Digital Folder Number: 004400856 , Image Number: 00473 , Reference ID: 18 09
John George Petherick England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index Name: John George Petherick Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1887 Registration District: Chester Le Street County: Durham Event Place: Chester Le Street, Durham, England Volume: 10A Page: 640 Line Number: 15
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7 Jan 2015 14:20 |
Hannah's Sister's children??
From tree on Ancestry:
Dorothy Petherick Birth: 05 Jul 1892 (5 Jul 1892) Marriage: 22 Sep 1918 - Sidney, British Columbia, Canada Death: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Parents: John George Petherick, Catherine Gowland<<<<< Spouse: Theodore George Sheriff
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7 Jan 2015 14:17 |
Name: Robert Gowland Petherick Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1888 Registration District: Chester Le Street County: Durham Event Place: Chester Le Street, Durham, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Volume: 10A Page: 492 Line Number: 223
Citing this Record: "England and Wales, Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2XTZ-TPV : accessed 7 January 2015), Robert Gowland Petherick, 1888; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," index, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Chester Le Street, Durham, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.
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7 Jan 2015 14:16 |
John and Hannah returned to UK in 1907- no Dorothy with them:
JR Dudley 30 Grocer Mrs Dudley 30 Wfie Irene Dudley 7 Mead Dudley 5 Marjory Dudley 3
Name: J K Dudley [John Robert Dudley] Birth Date: abt 1877 Age: 30 Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1907 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: St John Ship Name: Empress of Ireland Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line Official Number: 123972
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7 Jan 2015 14:15 |
Sorry........I have to quickly pop out.
Back in half an hour.
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7 Jan 2015 14:09 |
This passenger list has: J.R. Dudley, 21 Mrs. Dudley, 21 and directly under Mrs. Petherick, 30 Dorothy ", 4 Robert ", 9 Hannah ", 2
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Dorothy Petherick Name: Dorothy Petherick Gender: Female Age: 4 Birth Year: abt 1894 Date of Arrival: 26 Aug 1898 Vessel: Labrador Search Ship Database: Search for the Labrador in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada; Montreal, Quebec, Canada Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
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7 Jan 2015 14:08 |
Dorothy had travelled to England (from Canada) earlier the same year:
Name: Dorothy Petherick Birth Date: abt 1894 Age: 4 Port of Departure: Montreal, Quebec, Canada and Quebec, Quebec, Canada Arrival Date: May 1898 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Laurentian Search Ship Database: Search for the Laurentian in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Allan Line Official Number: 67994
Mrs C Petherick 32 Wife Robert Petherick 9 Child Dorothy Petherick 4 Child
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7 Jan 2015 14:06 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 Dunbar St Sunderland, Sunderland, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation John Dudley Head Married Male 35 1876 Durham Sunderland Coal Miner Hewer Transcription Hannah Dudley Wife Married Female 35 1876 Durham Sunderland - Transcription Irene Dudley Daughter - Female 11 1900 Wellington Vancouver Island British Columbia School Transcription Annie Dudley Daughter - Female 9 1902 Ladysmith Vancouver Island British Columbia - Transcription Margery Dudley Daughter - Female 7 1904 Ladysmith Vancouver Island British Columbia -
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7 Jan 2015 14:02 |
This a is the family in 1911......
1911 England Census about Irene Dudley Name:Irene Dudley Age in 1911:11 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1900 Relation to Head:Daughter Gender:Female Birth Place:Wellington, Durham, England Civil Parish:Sunderland County/Island:Durham Country: England Street address:4 Dunbar Street Occupation:School Registration district:Sunderland
Household Members:
John Dudley 35 Sunderland Hannah Dudley 35 Sunderland Irene Dudley 11 Wellington Annie Dudley 9 Ladysmith Margery Dudley 7 Ladysmith
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7 Jan 2015 14:01 |
?? (Ancestry hint for 1901 Canadian census)
British Columbia, Canada, Birth Index, 1872-1903
Name: Dorathy Hunter Petherick
Gender:Female
Birth Date 5 Jul 1892
Birth Location: Nanaimo
Registration Number: 1892-09-049897
BCA Number: B13810
GSU Number: 2114718
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