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Lol I think I'm going to have to send off for one if not both of them. I'm curious now cos she's like the scarlet pimpernel she just disappeared without a trace.

It would be very interesting to know cos then I can look for other possible children besides my grandad.

Thank you again tho you really are brilliant

Thank you
Trudy :-) :-)

I wouldn't be able to resist if it were me, but I might be encouraging you so I can preen if it's right! (Or go & hide if it's wrong). :-D

Might be worth buying the marriage cert, to see if Myrtle is perhaps a mistranscription.

Or Hyam's death cert, to see who he was married to.

Thank you you so good to be helping me with this ive been stuck on her now for months and got no where but thanks to all your help I have something to look into now.

Thank you
Trudy :-)

Might be worth investigating, in view of spelling on birth index, namely Myril. I can't find a trace of either Myrtle or Muriel Lee. Hyam probably born 1883 West Ham, this may be his death, but can't see him on London electoral registers to check who he is with.

Name: Hyam Lee
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: West Ham
Volume: 4a
Page: 38

Name: Hyam Lee
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jun 1936
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 265

Jan

Wow that record you found for her brother Theodore Norman Thomas maunder is def her brother.

You are brilliant thank you

So it appears she married hyam lee then

Thank you again your brilliant

Trudy :-) :-)

Her brother married in West Ham (but so did a few other Maunders):


Name:Theodore N T Maunder
Spouse Surname:Spurling
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district:West Ham
Inferred County:Essex
Volume Number:4a
Page Number:505

Can't find a birth for Myrtle Maunder but it could have been a 2nd marriage.

Nice find Jan- same marriage FMP:

First name(s) MYRTLE P
Last name MAUNDER
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1918
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MYRTLE P MAUNDER married
HYAM LEE
Spouse's last name LEE
District WEST HAM
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 322
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

I can't see her either - vaguely wondered about an error here (the name is Myrtle P not F I think), but this is extreme straw-clutching!!

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Barker Alfred C Keeble W. Ham 4a 322
Keeble Elizabeth Barker W. Ham 4a 322
Lee Hyam Maunder W.Ham 4a 322

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
BRUNNING Florence E Fisher W. Ham 4a 328
Fisher Albert Brunning W. Ham 4a 328
Harper Charles E Beard W.Ham 4a 328
Maunder Myrtle F Lee W. Ham 4a 328 (should read 322)

Jan

Thank you Mel
:-)

Parents marriage.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Allan Norman Maunder
Name: Allan Norman Maunder
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Dartford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 705
Records on Page:
Name
Agnes Adkins
Allan Norman Maunder************
Ada Florence Warner**************
George Webb

No I don't unfortunately all I know is she was sent away to a place in westham to give birth to my grandad in 1913 (westham) but after that I don't know anything about her?.
My grandad was born in 7 Exeter road Canning Town.

That's all I know

Trudy
:-)

I cant find Muriel after 1911

Do you know anything further about her?

Thank you gins

Trudy :-)

Hi Here's the 1901


1901 England Census

Name:Muriel Maunder

Age:7

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1894

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Father:Allen Maunder

Mother:Ada Maunder

Birth Place:Erith, Kent, England

Civil Parish:Erith

Ecclesiastical parish:St John

County/Island:Kent

Registration district:Dartford

Sub-registration district:Bexley

ED, institution, or vessel:22
Piece:698
Folio:106

Page Number:30
Household schedule number:184

Household Members:


Allen Maunder 42
Ada Maunder 38
Ada F Maunder 15
Therore T Maunder 9
Muriel Maunder 7
Bertha Mantle 19 <<Servant

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name:Myril Primrose Maunder

Registration Year:1893

Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun

Registration district:Dartford

Inferred County:Kent

Volume:2a

Page:464

That's them gritty

Trudy :-)

Just for reference:

1911
Allan Norman Maunder Head Married Male 52 1859 Strood Kent Fruiterer And Greengrocer
Ada Florance Maunder Wife Married Female 48 1863 Erith Kent Assisting In Business
Theo Norman Thomas Maunder Son Single Male 20 1891 Erith Kent Assisting In Business
Muriel Primrose Maunder Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Erith Kent Assisting At Home
William James Maunder Son Single Male 10 1901 Erith Kent School
Allan Charles Maunder Son Single Male 9 1902 Erith Kent At Home
Albert Edward Greenaway Servant Single Male 21 1890 Croydon Surrey Driver Of House And Van

Address 48 West St Erith Kent
Parish Erith
County Kent
Country England
Registration district Dartford
Registration district number 43
Subdistrict Erith
Subdistrict number 2
Enumeration district 12
Piece number 3752
Piece Number Suffix -
Schedule number 1
Schedule Suffix -
Census reference RG14PN3752 RG78PN142 RD43 SD2 ED12 SN1
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales

and birth:

First name(s) MYRIL PRIMROSE
Last name MAUNDER
Birth year 1893
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District DARTFORD
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 464